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March 13th, 2010, 11:02 PM
#16
But using the Google DNS is delightful--fastest internet I've ever had, despite Verizon..
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March 14th, 2010, 11:59 AM
#17
Yeah, I was pretty impressed with it too 
Are you using a firewall on either, or both, of the computes. If so try disabling it/them, and see if they can talk to each other then.
Nick.
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March 14th, 2010, 05:43 PM
#18
I'm a little behind you, will try the firewalls next.
My helpers have underestimated my confusion about networking. I didn't know I had to reset all the settings every time I unins./reins. the flaky NIC card. But when it's working, here they are. This is the old comp, Newmain. The General tab has the DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.
Did I leave anything out?


But I have established that the card is flaky because it keeps losing its MAC.
It's getting harder to find tutes of WIRED networking. Is there something online you would recommend when I have problems?
Will get to the firewalls next, but they've always been on, and set to let the LAN through.
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March 14th, 2010, 06:57 PM
#19
when I right-click on LAN in Network Settings, it could take 10-20 minutes for the protocols page to appear, then another long wait getting TCP/IP> Properties.
The properties windows should not take that long. Do you have another network card to try?
The LAN in NEWMAIN keeps getting new numbers in Network Connections every time I reinstall the card . Now it's called "Local area etc #6."
You can easily rename the local area connection. Open the Network Connections folder, right-click on the local area nework connection, and then choose Rename.
Eric
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March 14th, 2010, 07:50 PM
#20
 Originally Posted by ecross
The properties windows should not take that long. Do you have another network card to try?
Some kind of XP software problem. I already resolved it by restoring C: from a 2/18/2010 clone. But the one with the flaky card is the old comp, "Newmain." And I really think that's the issue. Financial problems, specifically unemployment, prevent my keeping extra parts around.
 Originally Posted by ecross
You can easily rename the local area connection.
Thanks. I thought Win was seeing it as a new LAN each time. If you want to help, back up and see how I followed the suggestions of Sparks and jdc so far. Adding to my confusion is that Westells have the router and modem combined, which is supposed to make it simpler. But when I had it bridged with a separate router, it drove me completely wacko.
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March 14th, 2010, 08:32 PM
#21
The Ipconfig results for both computers look fine. I don't see a problem with what you have. The next thing I would try is to try removing/disable a firewall temporarily to test the network.
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March 14th, 2010, 08:44 PM
#22
Haven't been in bridge mode since chucking the external router. I use a switch with a wired connection.
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March 14th, 2010, 09:01 PM
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March 14th, 2010, 10:41 PM
#24
are those all the numbers you use for google open dns
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March 16th, 2010, 01:59 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by Train
And your firewall are?
Comodo Firewall in both, with the other features disabled.
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March 16th, 2010, 02:00 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by frebo
are those all the numbers you use for google open dns
Yeah, really easy to remember , but I write everything down in a log anyway.
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March 16th, 2010, 09:17 AM
#27
Sometimes disabling a personal firewall doesn't always work. I suggest that you temporarily remove Comodo from your computer then try testing the network.
Eric
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March 16th, 2010, 06:08 PM
#28
I disabled them and checked with EnumProcess that they're not running.
No one else is impressed with the fact that the card in the old comp keeps losing its MAC address? I mentioned this on 3/13 "Neither can ping the other and NEWMAIN is showing FF-FF- as the MAC again. "
There are no new drivers, card is too old.
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March 16th, 2010, 06:27 PM
#29
Can either of the PC's ping its own IP address successfully? Can either of them ping the router? If you have a spare ethernet card, I'd replace the ancient one to see if that fixes the issue.
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March 16th, 2010, 09:48 PM
#30
They can each ping themselves. Bear can ping the router; Newmain, the old one can't. And it's also lost the internet now. I started suspecting the NIC card, but wanted to be sure before I spent the money, as I'm unemployed.
I'll mark this resolved temporarily till I can get a card.
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