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July 19th, 2005, 12:30 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by Byan
well, 25ms means that is will be refreshed 40 times per second.., 40Hz
for the 16ms, it is 62.5Hz..
ussually a refresh rate considerer optimal is ~75Hz...
I am guess the industry changed units so that people wouldn't be driven away with much less values for refresh rate then is considered good on a CRT..
well, IDK.., I think I am going to ask my friend what his response time is.., cause I thought his worked nicely
You can't compare refresh rates like that, because LCD's work in a completely different way to CRT's. There is no flicker with an LCD monitor, like you get with CRT's, and so the refresh rate is irrelevent. The 25ms response time that you quote is the time it takes for a pixel to change from one state to another, and which affects fast moving images such as games. It has nothing to do with refresh rates.
You can sort of work out the rough equivalent response time of a CRT monitor on the grounds that as the pixels have to be refreshed every x number of times per second, then so the response time must be the same. The formula is T = 1 / F, where T is time in seconds and F is frequency in Hertz. So a CRT monitor at 75 Hz is refreshing every 0.01333 S, or just over every 13mS.
Nick.
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July 19th, 2005, 01:19 PM
#17
all I did is go the opposite way and change it into Hz.., which is better for me since I have used CRT's at all sorts of refresh rates, including 60hz which when it doesn't flicker, runs perfectly for games..
I have a 17" gateway EV700 (I think that is it) and it runs at a top resolution of 1280 × 1024 at 60hz and it works perfectly like that about ~97%, sometimes its starts flickering so I bring the res down to ~1100 X whatever.., and then it runs fine...; ussually I switch back in 20 min or so..
anyways, 60hz works perfectly for games, but I have no idea how it would look with only 40.., so I am going to ask my friend who has a 17" LCD what his response time is, or rather what his model is cause I doubt he would know what the refresh rate is...; I was playing UT2k4 on his machine and the LCD ran perfect cept for the pixel he has that is always lit red...
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July 19th, 2005, 01:38 PM
#18
Dead Pixels Not Uncommon - Warranties Weak
Of the five or six LCD monitors I've bought for our office over the years, only one (an otherwise fine Cornea LCD) had a dead pixel. I've read, though, that they are not uncommon. Unfortunately, nearly every manufacturer requires quite a few dead pixels before it will replace the monitor.
I've found Dell, Viewsonic, Sony, and even Envision to be pretty good. Right now, though July 20, 2005, Dell has incredible deals on its 2001FP (20") for as little as $526. I only bought the little bugger 10 days ago for $561. So it goes. But I must admit it lives up to its billing. Darn sharp text and rich colors. Very nice.
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July 19th, 2005, 03:48 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by Byan
what store would this be?
I got mine at Circuit City. But unless they've changed policies, many of the other stores carry this no-questions-asked type of replacement extended warranties: Best Buy, CompUSA, etc.
My equipment:
Acer Aspire AX3300-U1322 Desktop (sorry didn't build this time!), 4Gb RAM, AMD Athlon II quad core CPU
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July 19th, 2005, 03:55 PM
#20
but arent the displays much more expensive at those stores then they would be online at newegg or tigerdirect?
I looked at best buy and they seem to be 50% more there..
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July 19th, 2005, 04:19 PM
#21
[QUOTE]Dell has incredible deals on its 2001FP (20") for as little as $526.
I was thinking of ordering one those for my other computer. Still looking! Buying a second LCD isn't any easyer than the 1st one I bought. Good grief. I have it narrowed down to Dell, Viewsonic and Samsung.
Happiness is a journey, not a destination. So work like you don't need money, Ride like you've never crashed, and dance like no one's watching!!!!!
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July 19th, 2005, 04:21 PM
#22
Draw one out of a hat? 
Liam
Desktop:I5 2500K|Asus P8Z68-V|8GB Corsair Vengeance|1280MB Nvidia 560 TI PE|1TB Seagate/60GB OCZ SSD|LG Blu-ray Writer|Corsair 750W
27" iMac:I5 2500S|12GB Crucial DDR3|ATI 1GB 6970|1TB|Superdrive|Mighty Mouse 
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July 19th, 2005, 04:33 PM
#23
Well I have my "old" 19" Sony CRT on my other system, Its a darned good monitor but next to my LCD its not as good as I thought it was. The LCD once dialed in is so much more pleasing to my eyes. And the extra room on the desktop is a major plus.
Happiness is a journey, not a destination. So work like you don't need money, Ride like you've never crashed, and dance like no one's watching!!!!!
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July 19th, 2005, 04:38 PM
#24
I've got it narrowed down to either a samsung 21" ~650 with 25ms or a 20" viewsonic with 16ms... ~600
just got to see what response time my friend has to decide between the two..
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July 19th, 2005, 05:13 PM
#25
Glad you have it narrowed down to a couple of good models, Can you post links so that we can pass judgement upon your choices 
Liam
Desktop:I5 2500K|Asus P8Z68-V|8GB Corsair Vengeance|1280MB Nvidia 560 TI PE|1TB Seagate/60GB OCZ SSD|LG Blu-ray Writer|Corsair 750W
27" iMac:I5 2500S|12GB Crucial DDR3|ATI 1GB 6970|1TB|Superdrive|Mighty Mouse 
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July 19th, 2005, 11:24 PM
#26
Remember DisplayMate for your CRT? Try out Monitors Matter CheckScreen v.1.2 to really tweak out your flat panel display. Very nice results.
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July 20th, 2005, 12:30 AM
#27
Have two 17in LCD's:
1-PLANAR
1-Cornea
Both have no dead ones and both excellent picture quality. I am completely satisfied with both. Both are 400:1...
Please do not use "PM" for personal help, post in forum so everybody can learn
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