Is This System OK

**scarecrowdr** · January 14th, 2005, 03:58 PM

Hi Folks, It be Meeee again!!
I did ask a few Months ago & you did give me Good Answers...
Now that these months have gone, The Time is Here!!!
I got £650 but would like some change!..I'm a Scrooge!!!!
I will Order these on Monday, but if I get quick n GOOD answers I will order tomorow (Saturday).....
So, Supersparks, DRMDJ, Photolady, GreenGoose n the rest of ya, pop on in n tell me if I need to change anything n why! PLEASE..

ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe NForce2 Dual Socket A
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ *333FSB* (or should i get the XP 2800+)?
Kingston DDR400 1GB Kit (2x512MB) PC3200 (will dual work better than one stick)
Zalman 700ALCU Ultra Low Noise Heatsink n Fan
RADEON 9600XT 128MBT DDR AGP8x DVI-TVO WO graphics card
Maxtor 200Gbt 7200 HD 8Mbt cache IDE or would you get the SATA Drive....(Will Never use RAID) so will one SATA drive plus 2xIDE work ok??!
Buying a New Case with 400Wat PSU (not decided which un yet)
I got All the other things needed.....
All are being bought in lockal Comp shop for convenience...
Might even let em put it all together!!!!
Or if you was me, would you buy OnLine in UK...Keeping in mind there be Postage + if there be any Duds there be more postage and waste of time....
Total price this way about £611.00p...

Over to you kind peeps then!....THANKS..

**rbc1100** · January 14th, 2005, 09:07 PM

Hello, I would opt for the 3200+ if its not to much more. Then you could take advantage of the ram you are buying and run at 400MHz fsb. You don't need pc3200 for the cpu you have chosen, 2700 will do unless you plan to oc a little. There isn't much difference between the 2800+ and the 3000+ Unless maybe the 3000 you are looking at has the 400MHz fsb. I think the 3000+ comes in both flavors 333fsb and 400fsb. Dual channel does have some performance advantage over single channel. Kingston is a good choice. Good luck!!!!

**techallenged** · January 14th, 2005, 11:05 PM

hi scarecrowdr

I just done a quick online price with comparative components u have chosen...

here is what I got

A7N8X Deluxe SKT A NForce2 Chipset Motherboard VER: 2.0
£80.16

AMD Athlon XP3000+ (Barton) 333FSB 512kb L2 Cache Retail
Boxed Processor Inc Heatsink & Fan with 3year Warranty
£93.99

Kingston 512MB DDR PC3200 400MHz CL3 Memory Module x2
£103.48

Arctic Cooling Copper Silent 2 Tc (supports Upto) Athlon XP3200 Includes Temperture Controller
£7.17

Sapphire Radeon 128MB 9600XT DDR DVI-i TV-Out Lite Retail Box
£92.98

Maxtor 6B200P0 Diamondmax 10 200Gb 7200rpm ATA133 8mb Cache - OEM
£64.42

for a total cost of £442.20 inc vat...

so being in UK I would most definatley look at online buying.... convenience is good but for the sake of almost £150 I can wait an extra day or 2 !!!!

granted the components I listed aren't like for like 100% but darn close eh!!! 150 squid.. gonna get you a top 'o' the range case and psu as well....

just my 2 pennies eh?

Tech

**Philgo** · January 15th, 2005, 04:18 AM

The same mobo is only £64.74 at Ebuyer http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=58198 have a look for the rest there, better still go 64 Bit

**scarecrowdr** · January 15th, 2005, 09:28 PM

Hi Folks, Thanks for replying...Appreciated..
techallenged----A7N8X here is £84.42 +vat
AMD Athlon 3000 is £85.10 with heatsink n fan...
Kingston 1GB 2x 512 twin is £114.47p
RADEON 9600xt £114
maxtor £89.99p
total=£466.99p thats £24.79p more plus free fitting into case...
so the advantage for saveing is in the free fitting..not bad that.
If things go wrong its just a 2min car journey to shop to rectify it..
I normally fit my own PC up but I no good doing the Processor n Heatsink n fan...so i'll let the shop do it for FREE....

rbc1100---Thanks m8, that's what i was thinking...But I know nothing about Processors..It is £25.53 +vat extra for the 3200+ 400FSB OEM Barton..
So if the shop will do that for £20 n no vat i will go ahead...

Shop is doing a Full system for my oldest Nephew with a few more things than me...That's why we got Free Fitting!!....

Thanks for Help n Take Care All..

**scarecrowdr** · January 15th, 2005, 09:55 PM

P.S-----Seeing as I don't need or use RAID (because i dont believe in wasteing a hard disc through mirroring) (I drag n drop from HD to HD) Can I connect either one or two HD to it n use like IDE..OR...Connect a SATA HD to it n use it for my OS...Would that be faster......Can someone Inteligent advise me here PLEASE..
Got 3 Optical Drives n 2 hard drives...

**rbc1100** · January 15th, 2005, 10:32 PM

The 3200 Barton core is a sweet running cpu. Thats what I have in this system with 1gig of Corsair XMS running in dual channel. My main board is an Epox. Its a good running and very stable system. Next stop, 64bit. Im gonna keep this mainboard/cpu for a second system. I was lucky enough to get an unlocked 3200. I have had this oced to 2.64 GHz(220x12) on 1.71 volts but did not like the temps hovering at 50/55c. Personally, I think that was about the best I could do with out raising voltage more and running into stablity issues or killing it.

**techallenged** · January 15th, 2005, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by scarecrowdr
Total price this way about £611.00p...

Over to you kind peeps then!....THANKS..

total=£466.99p thats £24.79p more plus free fitting into case...

um.. OK so now you got it down to 466.99 so go for it!!!!

Your 466.99 is that including VAT?

Tech

BTW, since I'm just up the valley from you could you name the shop thats doin the work?

**scarecrowdr** · January 16th, 2005, 04:19 PM

A 64bit Athlon is pushing the Price way to high....That's why i decided to go for one o the Last Socket A boards out there..
Should last me another 4 Years or longer....

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total=£466.99p thats £24.79p more plus free fitting into case...

You lost me here with that price....WISH that little lot was 466.99

I will be ironing out the Final price on Monday 17th Jan...
As i'm still undecided on which processor to go with....
The Ram is 1GBT (not 512Mbt) thats 2x 512 twin, cost £114. This pushes the price up...Athlon 3200 pushes price up also....
He don't sell Athlon 2600..He don't like peeps overclocking New Systems...
The shop is "ASIS" in Walters Road, Swansea.

Online:- www.asis.co.uk

What I do Not understand is the Speed the processors run at...Sounds like a con to me.....3200 should run 3.2 in my book, but don't...2800 should run 2.8 but don't.....

Could someone tell me the proper Ghz for these Processors at STOCK (not overclocked)....THANKS..

**rbc1100** · January 16th, 2005, 05:04 PM

Its not a con, the 3200 runs at 2.2GHz, and the 2800 runs at 2.08GHz. Its just the way AMD markets the product. I have both cpu's and they run very well.

**techallenged** · January 16th, 2005, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by scarecrowdr
quote:
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total=£466.99p thats £24.79p more plus free fitting into case...

You lost me here with that price....WISH that little lot was 466.99

I lost you?.. ok sorry but you started the thread at £611 for the components you listed, I found similar components and priced them at £442, you then responded with a price of £466.99....

so I'll recap, with similar components you can buy what you listed for around £460 inc vat and delivery.... so your wish that that little lot was 466.99 can come true... as philgo pointed out.. check out ebuyer and you will see how cheap you can get your system for, it's where I have sourced components for a full system I built myself, and also components for upgrades for numerous other machines. Never had a bad component from them, my only "problem" with them is that sometimes my orders have been delivered in bit's 'n' bobs (ie half the order delivered one day and the rest the next day type of thing).

Incidentally, I have also priced for you the same components, but with a AMD (Newcastle) Athlon 64bit 3000+ 754pin 512kb L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor with 3 Year Warranty and Fan Included
and
Asus K8V-SE Deluxe S754 VIA k8t800 ATX Sound Gig lAN Firewire USB 2.0 FSB 800 Retail Box mobo for the total price of 426.81
inc Vat (not including delivery)... so If ya wanna get a cracking system for less than you've been quoted you can definately do it with online shopping...

Thanks for the addy of asis.

Tech

**scarecrowdr** · January 17th, 2005, 09:17 PM

Thanks rbc 1100 for explaining that....Still baffled though as to why they say 3200 when its really a 2200 if it runs at 2.2Ghz...
Thats how my mind sees it...Like my mind sees the figure 2 its 2 not 2.5....But i get what ya meen....They are Coning us in my Book...Like renameing athlons to Sempron n not telling us its the Duron in disguise.......As far as I'm concerned some of these processors running at 1.2Ghz are same as my OLD Athlon T at 1.2, but costs more...CRAZY man..

techallenged---Thanks m8 for puting me correct there...Won't buy off of ebuyer or ebay anyway cause i aint got a Visa only a Switch, n if anything gos wrong I cant claim me money back....Will only use my card for goods under £100 on internet...
But I will look into it, no harm in that is there...
The ASIS shop is trying to get me to buy a Athlon 64 2800 opteron (i think thats what he called it) with a K8NE-Deluxe...
Somehow I don't think so, not quite to my likeing...He says the Athlon XPs are getting Very hard to find and going up in price, If that's the case, why are they advertised all over the internet!!
I can see me saying S*d it n waiting a few months more...lol
I think I'll stick to Gardening n Photography, they both be Easier to do...lol
Thanks for the Help All...Appreciated..

**scarecrowdr** · January 18th, 2005, 02:42 PM

P.S----RAM, the dreaded Ram....Which is the Best to get
CL3 or CL2 or CL2.5......THANKS

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