Operation Delta 14-3-5-BT

[Train]

Continued from here.

Pages loading slow. Do not want to lose them.
Let us carry on.

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[Sarrkazztic]

what is the latest update on Goose....he popped in for a second but disappeared again.

[Train]

Bet GG1 is saving every page, word for word, that was posted since last night.
A minute, more like a week.

Thanks for the help today.
Crazy how litttle things can make one fuss.

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[greengoose1]

Nope, here I am.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Had to tuck granddaughters in. What a crew you are. My heratfelt thanks to each and everyone of you. We did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The build took with sleeping included 26 hrs. 11 minutes which included posting. There is a wealth of information in the threads that we can all use.

BT's CPU temperature is running at 36.5 degrees C. Operation is stable thus far. The general setup list Bistro provided is a keeper and if you are going to build print it. That list saved a lot of time as it was a road map.

Bistro, DrMDJ, Sarkazztic, QoH, all said there would be glitches and to watch for them. They were so right. It was simple things that gave us problems. Lets review a little.

Putting the parts together and working with the case was easy. THe INWin S500 was very nice to work with. I mounted the rails on the CRROM drive and 3.5 Floppy Drive and slid them in so when it was time to attach the cables I slid the units out the front and plugged the cables in. Then slid them vback in. The hard drive case goes in and comes out slicker than a whistle. The MOBO was easy to install. Installing the CPU and HSF made me a little apprehensive though.

The first glitch was when the power was applied to BT it would came up and go back down in a few seconds. The correct procedure for this is to turn power on on the back of the unit and then when it goes down push the power switch on the front.

When I initially tried to Fdisk and Format, I miskeyed and set up the fist drive on 24MB. I forgot to add the % sign also. This gave a symptom of a bad boot sector and I was about to condemn the HD. But in talking with Train something clicked in my mind and I ran the HD Western Digital Data Liufeguard Tools and ran the diagnostic tests which also will repair your HD. It worked. Something I did corrupted the HD.

Could not get the CDROM up and using the same type of troubleshooting techniques we had been using found a bent pin on the IDE Primary board connector.

After that it was clear sailing and Windows 98SE was installed in about 25% of the time it normally takes.

From this, it shows that "little things" usually cause the most problems.

I am going to have two separate systems networked together. But I want a 19" monitor. So will try and find an el cheapo in the meantime.

We have to install the sound card, the second 40GB HD when i get it back out of the Compaq, and even though I will be networking I think a modem for safety's sake. When I get the burner from Jaak, it goes in also.

I will find my receipts and post the list of components as soon as I can but not tonight.

I will review ya'alls qustions and answer them also.

This configuration of computers will allow me to do alot of things I couldn't previously do. And I am looking forward to it. The IN Win cases ease of working makes a good test bed for some of the things I have in mind.

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[Sarrkazztic]

please at least wait a while before you go makeing BT a test machine....turn the compaq into a test machine or something....once you get BT all configured the way you want put a lock on the case.....

[bistro]

Nice summary, GG1. I'm just so tickled about this that....well, it's like the Master said to me:

My son, the trials and tribulations that cometh with building a computer paleth against the new found joy of it's culmination. Tell the masses to seek that joy. And when they asketh of thee for advice; my recommendation to thee is keep thy mouth shut and just giveth them links.

(You can see how much I really learned from him...;D)

Will check back tomorrow--has been one H of a day here in the Capitol area. Goodnight All.

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Goosed stressed are here

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[Sarrkazztic]

I built myself a test/gaming machine for under 100 bucks so far so that I would not be tempted to crack open that antec sx-830 and do any thing that could cause me to have to format and reinstall!! I do all my testing in the other machine and if it is something that I may want to do in my athlon machine after I ran all tests then I put it in there....remember the fiasco I had with the promise card...I will never go through that mess again in my main machine....I finally got it working in the test machine and figured out what I had to do to get it to work in the the athlon.....maybe I am being to cautionary but better safe than sorry.

Oh by the way we are all very proud of you....

[Sarrkazztic]

36.5 degrees...awesome..... is that temp reading in the bios or did you install the asus temperature utility for this reading? Did B or T recommend for you to download either rain 2.0 or cpu idle when you get all configured? when I first powered up my athlon it got up around 50 degrees...but I was using a cheap case with the vent holes in the sides left open and the oem hsf....powercooler was the brand I think...it didnt stay on there but a few days....upgraded to the vantec cck-6035d very loud DELTA fan....cannot reccommend this fan to people who are bothered by noise........

[greengoose1]

Sarkazztic, the temp reading came from the BIOS.

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[jtdoom]

Hi
I seemingly dropped off the earth yesterday.

should have explained it was a long day, and have to work early shift.

got up one hour too early too, plumb forgot the switch to wintertime.

yetsreday I was posting elsewhere, wanted to run hwinfo /ui and system froze.
I shut down and did not look back until now.

hwinfo /ui reports about machine in printable format

gotta go to the plant...


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[Sarrkazztic]

well within specs and should lower itself once you have had the machine running a while and the thermal paste sets into the hsf....also you are planning on buying a case exhaust fan and maybe a slot fan to help cool that video card correct? those will help to reduce that temp a few degrees too......I know that Dr.Mdj says to not put much stock in bios temps or Motherboard monitor temps but my 1.2ghz is running at 22degrees...converted that is 71 degrees...the current ambient temp in the room is 60 degrees....I am using cpu idle too which has helped bring my temps down about 10 degrees from what they were before I downloaded the program.....reminds me I have to register that one soon....Is Rain 2.0 readily available and is it freeware or shareware?...

I will have lots of questions for you over the next few weeks....I am particularly interested in the Geforce video card....thinking about buying one and am weighing your experience with it as my deciding factor..

[Train]

sarrkazztic
Talked him into BIOS for the reading. Very pleasant surprise. Of course It is underclocked right now, need to get the feel of it and make the changes. Went a little conservative. On purpose. May have to jumper him to allow jumper free mode to get it all the way up to 1.1GB. Need to do some thorough reading of past post, So I know what was set.

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[jtdoom]

good temp.

what results I got on the second athlon I built was similar.
used taisol cooler, and good paste rather than this thermal meld pinkish stuff. (it looks like that base putty I saw Ma use on her face. some Intel coolers used a whitish pad...)

non booter?
first thing to look for would be HDD LED orientation, and power LED / switch orientation.

next thing to look at was speed selector for memory.

but hey, it runs...
we have a gosling...

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[Sarrkazztic]

what speed is it running at???