Operation Delta 3 - 003

[greengoose1]

Had to start this one as Operation Delta 3-002 quit as we went to page three of the thread.

Thanks for heads up DrMDJ.

For those of you reading for the first time I am attempting to build the third Operation Delta computer who has been named BT. At the present time the original list of components is being upgraded with a "little help" from the expert computer gurus we have available. And dear reader do be careful what you ask because you always get the answer in great abundance. But do ask if you have a question on what you are doing. These computer heads have forgotten more than most of us will ever learn. 'Nuff said.

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[DrMDJ]

Can we have Steve locked 002 from further posts in hopes that what's there will be preserved as is? That way a link to it can just be provided here, in 003 (cut and pasting the text in is real messy) and be assured 002 will remain valid/viewable.

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[greengoose1]

I think it locked itself and I'll save it in its entirety when I get home.

Steve R Jones, Please lock this thread ( the Operation Delta 3-002), when you read this. Want to see what happens. It maybe we will want to do it on all in the future to keep the threads intact on VirDr even though I have them saved. Thanks GG1

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[DrMDJ]

Then for reference... The goings on of Operation Delta 003 - 002 can be viewd here.

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Email Steve. He has done it for me.

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[DrMDJ]

Bistro,

I have to second what you (last) said in the previous Delta 3 thread. Benchmarks have their place, but they must be kept in perspective. First, they don't necessarily reflect what can be expected/gotten in real-life experience. But beyond that, you do start to get in to the realm of whether there is in fact a perceptable or practical difference between this or that. Often people will claim they can see the difference in, say, a difference of a few FPS or a few nano seconds. But the truth is that if they were given a placebo test they would probably fail. And when it comes to multitasking, having umpteen things open is different than actively and simultaneously using them.

The truth is that the state of the technology is currently far above the ability of most home users to fully utilize it on any sort of sustained basis. People are simply addicted to this stuff.

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[DrMDJ]

Train, will do.

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[Train]

The truth is that the state of the technology is currently far above the ability of most home users to fully utilize it on any sort of sustained basis. People are simply addicted to this stuff.

Very, very true. Most of us, can get by just fine with 500MHZ cpu and 128MB of ram.

But, for the bigger is better virus and go along with it. I hear it is uncureable.

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[DrMDJ]

Kinda like people who say they need a soundcard that faithfully (re)produces frquencies above 20khz. Yet they encode MP3s with an encoder that (unknown to them) cuts all frequecies above 16khz and they say it's the best. Perception and reality: two different things.

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[bistro]

Thar ye be...perception and reality. BTW, thanks for the DDR insight. Thanks, but no thanks--an average of 5 to 10% ain't enough to get me to spend the bucks. Gonna wait for the Intel Socket 478 to come out later this year and see which mobo/chipset manufacturer puts it to the better use. It will be interesting.....

[DrMDJ]

Anyway...

GG1,

If you're going the KT7-RAID route I assume you've looked through the viahardware faq over yonder for relevant info.

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[DrMDJ]

I know I came down hard on the P4s before, but that's before I saw this workhorse. On a price/performance basis I'm sure it has few equals. And rumor has it is is highly underclockable. Besides, it fits your budget perfectly. And Maxx would be so happy. Please give it due consideration.

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[greengoose1]

Wise words are being spoken on this thread.

DrMDJ, I am reading as quickly as I can. I think I have opened a can of worms but it was important to go through for the readers so that they are aware of what is there. It is also important to remember that we have to cover the details so new builders don't have to guess. They have to have something they can grab hold of and refer to. A basic knowledge base if you will. I am glad I'm going through this exercise since with The QoH's and Train's computers I was there but followed along more than anything else.

Everytime I think I'm getting somewhere you all blow me away with even more goodies of knowledge. Which is good.

Be back. Need to save some "stuff".


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[maxximilian]

Thank you DrMDJ...it brings a tear to this computer-weary eye to see that machine...LOL

I am going to bring the Emachine over, right now, to this monitor and let it have a look at it's cousin.

Remember folks....HP just bought out Compaq, which doesn't leave many brands left on the shelves at Best Buy and Circuit City. When the smoke clears...it might just leave Emachines in charge. Imagine that...

BTW...just got back from Best Buy with some new hardware for the emachine. She might just fly again. I'll let you know.

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[Train]

Maxx
"She might just fly again"
What did you get a Pratt-Whitney radial 16 for 3400HP

GG1
Looks like you want to be a platter spinner I see.

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