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March 29th, 2001, 10:22 PM
#16
Oh, just a little endeavoring... 
When I'm ready, I'll show ya.
Sorry to hear about the food poisoning. 
Hey ! Was it from someplace ya can sue ?
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March 29th, 2001, 11:06 PM
#17
Look at that trying to make someone rich 
Bet a new computer for the idea is wanted 
Yes a bistro special at that.
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March 29th, 2001, 11:22 PM
#18
No, can't sue---no real proof, but I narrowed it down to that place. I should have suspected something when the salad blinked at me....
OK, side panel blowholes. Remember the rule: Measure twice, cut once. No...I'll change that...measure several times, then cut once.
With the side panel off, take some masking tape and line the top, bottom and rear edge of the case, so you don't have to make pencil marks directly on the metal. Assuming you're gonna make two vertical blowholes, measure the distance from the top and rear to approximately center over the CPU. Do the same for the vid card. Remember, the side panel has that large indentation ("handle"), so you may not be able to cut exactly over where the CPU/vid card reside, but close enough. Make notes of the measurements. Then take some wide masking tape and completely cover the area on the side panel where the blowholes will be cut (try to do edge to edge or a very slight overlap; don't want it too thick)--mark on the taped area the center mass for the two measurements. (The masking tape will help prevent scratches when cutting/drilling). Take the chrome grills to be installed (assuming they're 80mm's) and place (center) them down on each center mass marking. May have to make slight adjustments here--if you have to move them slightly more apart, it's not going to matter much; just line them up as straight as possible vertically). Once straight, tape them down by their mounts ("legs")WITHOUT covering up the holes where the mounting screws go. Check again to make sure they are as straight as possible. Then using the inside of the outer ring, trace a circle using a good "Sharpie" pen. Then carefully mark with a spot the exact center where each mounting screw will go. Remove the grill carefully and fill in any blank spots on the traced circle. Repeat for the other blowhole. Inspect your work. Line those grills back up on your tracings and double-check. You are now ready for cutting.
Go slow--will be difficult to replace that side panel if you screw up. Make sure you file the edges down fairly well after cutting--making sure there are no little metal tags left to fall down into your case.
I found the best screws/bolts to fit 80's (with grill and filter) are 6/32 x 1 1/4" machine screws--round head. Available at most hardware stores. be sure to get the matching nuts for them--can find them in packets of 6. I also prefer the aluminum filters rather than the foam type--just my preference really. If you use the aluminum type, be aware of the orientation. Spin the fan blades by hand before powering up--if you hear them scraping, reverse the filter. If you power up and they're not oriented right, you could quickly burn out the fans. As far as fans go, Antec, Sunon and Panaflo are all good. Personal pref are the Panaflo's--seem to move more air a lot quieter than the others.
Now, if any of ya'll are going for a blowhole on top, it's basically the same, BUT make dang sure you account for the space it takes to slide off the case top vs. the amount of space to the power supply--bit of a tight fit---measure very carefully. My top blowhole centermass is 8" from the rear of the top panel. Yours may be slightly different, depending on the power supply.
Thar ye be. 
Oh, forgot the mounting holes....I used a self-tapping machine screw-slightly larger than 6/32; just drilled it in, then reversed it out. When you try to mount the grill/filter/fan, if you find one of the mounting holes to be slightly off , just drill it open a little more. Of course, after all the cutting/drilling, remove all masking tape (looks ugly on there anyway )
[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 03-29-2001).]
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March 29th, 2001, 11:41 PM
#19
My gosh Bistro, what extrodinarily bad luck. That is not my idea of fun in any way shape or manner. Just got in from work and got curious about what was happening. I believe where you're at is baisically bad for your health. Go west young man - go west. Thanks for trying on Goldust.
Train, I had an HO model railroad when I was a kid you would not belive. That's where I started learning about electricity. The Shay was in a Model Railroader years ago. Lots of stories there.
What is the QoH up to........ 
Nite all - 4am till now - long day.
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March 29th, 2001, 11:44 PM
#20
Wil have to say "Nite" too. Awful tired here. Will check back tomorrow. Nite all.
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March 29th, 2001, 11:57 PM
#21
Bistro
Thank you.
Greengoose1
I watched them with the disconnects behind them loaded with logs. Seen the last one working in 65. Real speedy 12 mph max.
To all have a good nite. Me toooo.
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March 30th, 2001, 08:00 PM
#22
The price of ram is going up! Darn it.
EDIT: 6033 3DMARKS Nice jump
Talk about eye problems
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March 30th, 2001, 09:30 PM
#23
Train, saw 256 133 for 79 in metroplex ad.
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April 1st, 2001, 12:54 AM
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Got rid of both of the so-called "tweak" programs for GeForce cards and went back to the standard tweaks--pulled 7033 3DMark2K score (big increase). 3DMark 2001 is out, but too big of a download--don't want to wait 2 hours . If anyone sees it come out on any computer mag CD, give me a whistle....Thanks!
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April 1st, 2001, 08:59 AM
#25
Morning, What slowed them down - to much add on?
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April 1st, 2001, 05:20 PM
#26
bistro
3DMark 2001 needs Direct x 8 or more to run.
I got it by accident 
It is only 30.0MB 
You are right the basics gave me my big jump and I just followed the instructions as listed, helped rendering times also. 
Worked of my first mac last night, talk about a newbie feeling. Also, someone has a surprise coming if I work one her 486 with 95B again. I will add a couple of programs, like msconfig, msinfo32, winme defrag, you know nothing major,. Now to get her to turn her back for two minutes.
Did not get any modes done this weekend, but there is always tomorrow.
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April 1st, 2001, 10:25 PM
#27
I'm beginning to suspect QoH went out and bought a 3D fantasy game and is now somewhere between the Netherworlds and Elf City, battling some evil Troll King....
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April 1st, 2001, 10:32 PM
#28
No I think it is ulead, had heard to leave it alone.
But, like you, getting curious ! Hope all is well.
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April 1st, 2001, 10:41 PM
#29
Just goes wandering off. Probably the power corrupts syndrome. :
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April 1st, 2001, 10:42 PM
#30
refresh my memory...exactly which Ulead program are we talking about? Cool 3D?
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