DestestX 8.0 and bad crashes

[griffinspc]

Miss_U and all, edited to relevant listings dxdiag print:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/6/2001, 17:45:37
Machine name: GRIFFINA
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer:
System Model:
BIOS:
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~1016MHz
Memory: 256MB RAM
Page File: 33MB used, 918MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
DX Setup Parameters: /PackageInstall
DxDiag Version: 4.08.00.0400

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nvdisp.drv is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
Sound Tab 1: The file SBPCI.VXD is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
Music Tab: No DirectMusic ports were found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0110&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_B2\000800
Display Memory: 63.5 MB
Current Mode: 800 x 600 (16 bit)(75Hz)
Monitor: tor1
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nvdisp.drv
Driver Version: 4.13.01.2183 (English)
DDI Version: 8 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/14/2001 16:52:00, 106976 bytes
Driver Certified: No
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: *vdd
Mini VDD: nvmini.vxd
Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4250-11CF-376B-012010C2C935}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0110
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x00B2
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result:
D3D Test Result:
AGP Test Result:

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Inactive Display Entries in Registry
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None

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Inactive Sound Entries in Registry
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Card name: Creative SB AudioPCI 128 (WDM)
Driver: wdmaud.drv
Card name: Creative Sound Blaster PCI128
Driver: sbpci9x.drv
Card name: PCtel Serial Wave Device
Driver: serwvdrv.drv
Card name: PCtel Serial Wave Device
Driver: serwvdrv.drv

Had a minute so I installed latest 4 in 1 Via, latest Nvidia drivers and checked everything out again. No luck.

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[griffinspc]

^bumper^

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[Miss_Understood]

The DXdiag looks good related to your video drivers and settings. I know the problem is related to video, but you might want to clean up the inactive sound card entries found at the bottom of the dxdiag file (just as a precaution).

Start the computer in safe mode then go to the sound tab and remove any inactive or duplicate entries.

Now, restart and go back to device manager for the next step (review irq settings for conflict). In device manager, dobule click on My computer then make sure the dot is in IRQ. Scroll down the list to find your video card and see if any other moveable items (ie modem, sound card) share an IRQ with the video card.

For example, on my computer the network and sound card share an IRQ. Usually this is okay, but if I experienced hardware problems, I would 1) uninstall one of the card in Windows, pull it out of the computer and move it to a different slot to see if the IRQ sharing goes away.

Someone once told me it is best if your cards alternate spaces.

Meanwhile, I was trying to find a link provided in other topics that had a list of Fatal exception codes and their meanings. Anyone remember that link?

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"Si tacuisses, philosophus manisses."
If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.

[griffinspc]

Worked all weekend and here's the answer (I Think):
The solution turned out to be a combination of DirectX 8 and Media Player 7.1.

It may just be Media Player and not 8 but I want to run for awhile before I try to re-install 8. I uninstalled it and replaced it with X7 but also rid myself of Media Player when it was apparent that that was not the sole solution and Media Player 7.1 was installed at the same time.

Curiously when I un-installed Media 7.1, the old 6.4 immediately became active again which I had thought was overwritten. I took the old Goodtime.mpg file from MS Win95 and played it with 6.4 on my wife's machine, full screen, no problems. Then I installed 7.1 and played it and it skipped and distorted the image and audio match up.

I uninstalled 7.1, 6.4 reappeared and played the file perfectly.

If you have problems as I had you may want to check into Media 7.1 as the culprit. As I said I want to run a little while then re-install DirectX 8 without 7.1 and see what happens.

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[PitDogDude]

Go into your bios and go to advanced chipset features. See if video ram cachable is enabled. If it is disable it, save settings, and reboot. See if that helps. If a program writes to that memory area it will cause crashes. Also make sure memory hole is disabled.

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1.1 Athlon clocked to 1232mhz, 512 mb pc133,GeForceII 350 mhz. RAMDAC AGP video,DVD,Zip,6 port internal usb hub, TV capture,7200 rpm EIDE HD, etc. etc. etc.

[BadBrain1]

For what it's worth, DirectX 8.1 was officially released by MS this weekend:
http://www.microsoft.com/directx/hom...ds/default.asp

It may solve your problem.



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ASUS A7V + 1.4ghz Athlon t-bird ,Swiftech MC462a, 512mb (generic) pc133 @143mhz(2-2-2), IBM 75GXP, ASUS Geforce2 GTS, SB-Live5.1,12x10x32 Plexwriter,16x40x Pioneer DVD, Cable, Win98SE

[griffinspc]

Thanks BadBrain1, doesn't it just frost your ass that MS releases this with the exact same,

This latest version of DirectX offers updated graphics, faster frame rates, and support for massively multiplayer games. It also offers more immersive audio when running and displaying programs rich in multimedia elements such as full-color graphics, video, 3-D animation, and surround sound. If you had an earlier version of DirectX installed on your system, you will see little difference in available space on your hard drive following the installation.

DirectX 8.1 will overwrite any earlier versions. DirectX 8.1 provides the latest update to the DirectX technology. DirectX 8.1 will ensure trouble-free installation and includes the latest USB game controller updates in addition to the features provided by DirectX 8.0.

statement as 7, 7.0a, 8, 8.0a and now 8.1.

No message of the problems being corrected or the actual improvements. Geeeeze!

I think, as I said before, I'll run with 7.0a for awhile until I'm sure I'm stable then try this one.

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