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July 2nd, 2010, 11:22 PM
#1
MS Security Essentials--My experience
Shortly after I got my new PC in February, I uninstalled Norton AV 2010 and ZoneAlarm Free and installed MS Security Essentials and let Windows Firewall take over those duties.
Over the next four months I seemed to have no problems. MSSE reported no malware on the many scans and did most everything very quietly in the background. It was an easy program to live with.
Then last week I was unable to get to Desktop. Progress stopped at the Starting Windows screen (black screen with small pulsing MS logo). I could not reach Safe Mode. I could not run Repair Install or Clean Install (both stopped at the Setup window.
I took the PC to a local computer store. After a week they decided I had viruses and cleaned them off.
I guess I should go back to Norton. Over at least ten years I never had an infection while using Norton. Maybe I was getting too adventuresome lately.
Comments would be welcome.
Jim
WIN7 Ultimate SP1 64bit, IE 11, NTFS,
cable, MS Security Essentials, Windows 7 firewall
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July 3rd, 2010, 02:20 AM
#2
I would use Norton 2009 or 2010 rather than a Microsoft anti-malware product. I have not seen a M$ antimalware product yet that I would trust, and their support for their own products of this type has been less than confidence inspiring.
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July 3rd, 2010, 10:32 AM
#3
I've been using MS Security Essentials for several months now. I haven't had any problems what so ever. But your post got me thinking so I performed an online scan with Panda. Panda's scan lasted about 4 hours or so and found 11 cookies, but gave me no way to delete the cookies, just an add page saying "BUY NOW". In addition Panda placed adware on my computer that MS SE prompted me to remove, which I did. I'm very disappointed with Panda, and would never buy their products. I suspect the guys over at the computer store might have been feeding you a line so they could charge you an arm and a leg to disinfect your computer. I haven't heard of any other cases where MS SE wasn't doing it's job.
The true test of character is not how much we
know how to do, but how we behave when we don't know what to do
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July 3rd, 2010, 10:42 AM
#4
I agree with jmtjet. I've installed it on multiple machines and it hasn't let anything at all through - even on a virtual machine that is used purely for visiting those parts of the web where I have my doubts about whether they can be trusted. And it has a good rep. I have to confess that I still use NOD32 on my main rigs though.
What malware did they claim that Security Essentials had let through?
Nick.
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July 3rd, 2010, 03:56 PM
#5
I was using it on two computers, until Kaspersky online scan turned up five java exploits which ms completely missed. I immediately uninstalled it and installed Avira, which found and removed the exploits on the first scan. I then told my friend who recommended MSSE to me, he did the same, and Avira also found problems on his machine. I don't recommend it. Avira also uses less than one 3rd the resources.
There is nothing to fear, but life itself.
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July 4th, 2010, 08:03 PM
#6
thought i might check this out, installed avira and ran scan found 3 trojan downloaders wonder how those got by microsoft or did they not see them as a threat
If I Ain't Crappie Fishin', I'm Thinkin' About It
listen with your eyes---its the only way to believe what you hear...
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July 4th, 2010, 08:21 PM
#7
this is what avira found that essentials missed although they are rated low ScreenShot0031.JPG
If I Ain't Crappie Fishin', I'm Thinkin' About It
listen with your eyes---its the only way to believe what you hear...
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July 4th, 2010, 08:33 PM
#8
No matter what AV you use, after a few months change to another AV and chances are the new product will find a few "threats". No product is perfect and none agree on what constitutes a threat.
Six months from now switch back to MS from Avira. I'll be very surprised if MS doesn't detect some infections.
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July 4th, 2010, 09:32 PM
#9
I don't doubt what any of you are reporting and to think I considered using the MS app when Symantec was being sold by Newegg for a net $10.99 after discount and rebate for Nortons Internet Security. I bought one and installed it on my machine and have had no problems. The irony of this was a promise I made to myself to never use Nortons again; not after the most difficult time I had of removing Nortons from one of my machines some time back. I had used NIS-different versions-for several years. Hope I don't jinx my machine. Good luck to all who may be searching for new AV software.
Compaq Presario CQ5210F Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit Athlon II X2 215(2.7GHz) Nvidia GeForce 6150SE 22" Envision LCD Monitor Brother HL2040 Laser Printer 500GB SATA HDD 3GB DDR2 Ram and NVIDIA nForce MCP61 Chipset Motherboard
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July 4th, 2010, 09:59 PM
#10
Of course they'll miss something, that's why I always double check and sometimes triple check using Kaspersky, and sometimes panda (it missed the same thing ms did) and trend micro. But Kaspersky is generally the high water mark of recognition. So far it hasn't caught anything that Avira hasn't.
There is nothing to fear, but life itself.
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July 4th, 2010, 11:03 PM
#11
I was reading about this so since I have MSE on here, I ran an online scan with Housecall. It didn't find anything. Maybe I'm just a cautious surfer, or maybe MSE is doing its job.
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July 4th, 2010, 11:19 PM
#12
I would give a try at Kaspersky. That's the benchmark.
There is nothing to fear, but life itself.
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July 4th, 2010, 11:43 PM
#13
I think MSE is ok but I didn't care for it long term because updates were large (bad on dialup) and it lack of detailed settings. Plus, it appeared that it may have been interfering with Copernic Desktop Search by doing background scans quite a bit of the time.
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July 5th, 2010, 01:06 AM
#14
Debating the "best" AV is an exercise in futility. However, I can't resist pointing out that NOD32 is generally rated highest in comparisons. Kasperskey is no longer highly regarded (although that could change with the next test).
I don't think either is worth the cost for personal use. I use MS and practice safe surf which is more effective than any AV.
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July 5th, 2010, 11:44 AM
#15
I used to use nod 32, but they went from a very complicated interface to one that is so dumbed down that I couldn't cope with it. Also had more than their fair share of false positives. I would prefer that to missing viruses but neither is ideal.
There is nothing to fear, but life itself.
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