[RESOLVED] Daylight savings fix?

**lgbpop** · March 8th, 2007, 10:42 PM

No, they're not head games. A device that changes to DST automatically on April 1 will be two hours ahead if it's also set ahead an hour this Sunday. So why have to change something twice? I'll wait three more weeks, it'll be just fine then without touching it.

**HAN** · March 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM

so are these comments floating around various places, "in three weeks" they'll have to change it again, just head games?

No, because if you change something like your VCR this coming Sunday morning (3/11) and leave it in Daylight Saving Time mode, on April 1st it will move the time +1 hour. Which means you will have to set it back 1 hour. Which will be a pain in the neck! So no, it's not head games. This "relocation" of when DST begins and ends will cause some folks a lot of problems...

**EDIT**

Caught me posting sloooowwwww again!!!

**egdufwollamhsram1851** · March 8th, 2007, 11:01 PM

WOW
I think i just got hit by a south bound going north. So is it set once and done or is it gonna be set twice. I'm beginning to wish i'd never seen the news article?
thanks

**lgbpop** · March 8th, 2007, 11:21 PM

So is it set once and done or is it gonna be set twice.

I don't understand what is so hard about this. Congress changed the law, but didn't change all the older hardware. Older clocks, VCRs, etc. are still going to automatically jump ahead an hour on the first Sunday in April (April 1 this year) just as they always have. So, if you want the time to be correct, you have to set your clock, VCR, whatever ahead an hour March 11, then back an hour April 1.....or just let it be an hour off for 3 weeks as I plan to do.

**egdufwollamhsram1851** · March 9th, 2007, 12:25 AM

Well if i am go going to use an https site, i imagine i am going to have to set twice, i assume the setting is going to be off an hour 3 weeks from Sunday then, I was not aware of 2 settings until i started reading different sites, I guess this editor will not adjust in 3 weeks or can it be set in multiple ways.
Looks like this system will have an issue, not the other? So how are the other systems being automatically set, they have patches which pick up the 2 dates?
thanks

**HAN** · March 9th, 2007, 06:50 AM

Not sure if I totally follow but if the time zone setting changes are made in Windows (as we have been posting about), none of these PCs should have any issues. It's the ones left unpatched/unchanged that will have the troubles...

lgbpop: I would completely agree that the concept is not difficult to grasp. But I'm guessing we will still hear (via the news media and even places like this) about problems with the changes over the next few weeks???

**lgbpop** · March 9th, 2007, 09:32 AM

You know it.

And if some people aren't confused enough, the news media will take care of that. I'm reminded of the Y2K nonsense all over again.

**Train** · March 9th, 2007, 02:46 PM

Most of us , at our level , those changes are not really needed. But when you get to Corperate level with their various servers and OS's, now that is where it can hit the fan.

**egdufwollamhsram1851** · March 9th, 2007, 10:24 PM

Han

It appears i am the lone ranger in this, I think i read in one of your responses, that there was a temoprary setting in the Tzedit.exe, or once i set it at the setting for this Sunday, i won't have to adjust it in 3 weeks, or i will have to change it in 3 weeks. The https sites are secure sites, that may need actual time? That really is paramount to me , but do i have to do the Tzedit.exe again, or adjust the clock only in 3 weeks. Never been there before.
sorry
thanks

[QUOTE=HAN]Not sure if I totally follow but if the time zone setting changes are made in Windows (as we have been posting about), none of these PCs should have any issues. It's the ones left unpatched/unchanged that will have the troubles...

**SpywareDr** · March 10th, 2007, 08:26 AM

Daylight Saving Time (DST) Patch links:

Microsoft: Daylight Saving Time Help and Support Center
(Select "Home" user, then select your Operating System [Vista, XP, Media Center, 2000 Professional])
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst

Microsoft: Daylight Saving Time Help and Support Center for Outlook users
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_hu5?systemlist=noOs

IntelliAdmin: Unofficial Windows XP, NT, 2000, 2003, Vista Daylight Saving Time Patch
(Scroll down to the "downloads section" link)
http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/200...-daylight.html

IntelliAdmin: Unofficial Windows 2000 Daylight Saving Time Patch
http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/200...-daylight.html

IntelliAdmin: Unofficial Windows 98, ME Daylight Saving Time Patch
http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/200...dst-patch.html

Sun Developer Network (Java) TZupdater tool:
http://java.sun.com/developer/techni...es/Intl/USDST/

**HAN** · March 10th, 2007, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by egdufwollamhsram1851

Han

It appears i am the lone ranger in this, I think i read in one of your responses, that there was a temoprary setting in the Tzedit.exe, or once i set it at the setting for this Sunday, i won't have to adjust it in 3 weeks, or i will have to change it in 3 weeks. The https sites are secure sites, that may need actual time? That really is paramount to me , but do i have to do the Tzedit.exe again, or adjust the clock only in 3 weeks. Never been there before.
sorry
thanks

No, there are no temporary settings in TZ Editor. If you change a time zone and apply/save the changes, they will stay.

As for changes in 3 weeks, these issues are related to NON-PC items that could automatically adjust themselves for DST (like VCRs, etc.) They are set on the old DST timeframe and most can't be changed.

Once your PC has been corrected to the 2nd Sunday in March and the 1st Sunday of November DST change dates, you will not need to change it again unless Congress rescinds that time frame and makes another.

As for https sites, I don't remember reading about DST issues for them. But I suppose anything could be possible???

**egdufwollamhsram1851** · March 10th, 2007, 11:02 AM

HAN

1 2 3 ,Even I think i can understand that

, To bad the 3 week conversation had to be added to make it confusing to "NON PC" items when we were in my mind trying to resolve pc items.

Today is the magic day, i guess, i heard on the radio only a portion of countries affected so that only adds to the on going for others. Had it not been for this system on 98 it would have been a no brainer.
Thanks for the added response.

**egdufwollamhsram1851** · March 10th, 2007, 01:49 PM

Well if it works that was like falling off a log, there was no reboot notice, just close window, settings set as needed, so when i reboot see what happens.
thanks

Originally Posted by egdufwollamhsram1851

HAN

1 2 3 ,Even I think i can understand that

, To bad the 3 week conversation had to be added to make it confusing to "NON PC" items when we were in my mind trying to resolve pc items.

Today is the magic day, i guess, i heard on the radio only a portion of countries affected so that only adds to the on going for others. Had it not been for this system on 98 it would have been a no brainer.
Thanks for the added response.

**egdufwollamhsram1851** · March 11th, 2007, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by HAN

Once your PC has been corrected to the 2nd Sunday in March and the 1st Sunday of November DST change dates, you will not need to change it again unless Congress rescinds that time frame and makes another.

HAN
Worked Great, sorry for all the doubt, and questions.
Thanks Again

**HAN** · March 15th, 2007, 05:50 AM

You are very welcome!

(Been out of town!)

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