Vista Upgrade Advisor

**SuperSparks** · January 3rd, 2007, 07:41 PM

This tool will help check if your hardware and software is suitable for use with Vista:

Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor

**SuperSparks** · January 3rd, 2007, 07:56 PM

And here is a list of upgrade paths to see if you qualify for an Upgrade version of Vista:

Upgrade Planning for Windows Vista

NOTE: You must have a full licence of the qualifying OS. That article does not make that clear - you cannot use a previous Upgrade version to qualify.

**SuperSparks** · January 3rd, 2007, 08:40 PM

Some further notes on buying a Vista Upgrade version :

It will not be possible to cold-boot into Setup from an Upgrade DVD, as with previous versions of Windows - Setup can only be run from a working, activated and validated Win XP or Win 2000 OS. It is possible to clean install Vista though.

If you have a pirated version of Windows that does not pass WGA testing, buying the Upgrade version of Vista will not get you a legal installation, you won't be able to install it at all.

If you have a preinstalled version of Windows, make sure that you have a way of reinstalling it, as you will need to reinstall it first before you can reinstall Vista from an Upgade DVD, should the need arise.

My understanding is that Upgrade DVDs can be cold-booted for the purposes of running the repair tools on it - it is only Setup which is disabled.

**snooker** · January 30th, 2007, 10:06 PM

Just to add

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us

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**Nix** · January 30th, 2007, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by SuperSparks

NOTE: You must have a full licence of the qualifying OS.

Do OEM versions count as full ?

**msb71** · January 30th, 2007, 10:54 PM

I have read in places that Vista from the start may not need a SP1 like xp or others.Simply because of the fact that it has taken so long to get it ready that most of the bugs are taken care from the beginning, what are you guys thoughts on that?
Far as your question goes Nix i bought GG a OEM version of XP and has a voucher for an upgrade to Vista basic,so I think a OEM is fully liscenced.But I may be wrong.
Mike

**Nix** · January 30th, 2007, 11:49 PM

Good point re the voucher. I missed out by 3 days on getting the vocuher for a cheap Vista upgrade when I bought my new rig last October.

ie they made the announcement 3 days after I paid and ordered my Dell.

Although the new machine is my frist home machine running XP so not about to rush out and get Vista.

**SuperSparks** · January 31st, 2007, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Nix

Do OEM versions count as full ?

Yes they do. But something to consider is the fact that upgrades are now done differently, and you cannot start Setup from a Vista Upgraded DVD and put yoiur old qualifying CD in when asked. You can only run Setup from within the OS that you want to upgrade, and that OS has to be activated and validated in the case of XP. So if you ever wanted to use the Vista Upgrade on another machine in the future (which the licence allows), then you wil have a problem because you won't be able to use the OEM installation on another PC.

My advice would be to buy OEM Vista (cheaper than the upgrade version) if upgrading from OEM XP.

**snooker** · January 31st, 2007, 07:56 PM

DailyTech is saying there a work around to install a clean install with an upgrade version of Vista now , Have a look at site below ...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932

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**SuperSparks** · January 31st, 2007, 08:10 PM

Steve has already posted about that claimed workaround here:

http://discussions.virtualdr.com/sho...d.php?t=216245

I don't believe it is true, as Upgrade DVDs are supposed to be non-bootable. If it does turn out to be true then MS have made a heck of a mistake, as it would be possible to install Vista Upgrade on a bare machine without any previous OS at all.

**snooker** · January 31st, 2007, 08:21 PM

Oops , sorry about that . I was wondering the samething , When you try to load windows it will ask for the keys before you can continue and from the MS link that I added ? It pretty well said it will lock the system from going further , So only time will tell

**pitbull10** · February 3rd, 2007, 07:18 AM

Hi

I have read on several forums that if you use an upgrade version of vista ,Microsoft will black list your prod key on boot up, making your old version of XP US.

So there is no going back as you will not be able to validate your XP.

Your opinion's please.

Pit

**SuperSparks** · February 3rd, 2007, 01:14 PM

The honest truth is that until there is some proper clarification from Microsoft, nobody really knows quite what the score is vis a vis Upgrade discs.

But there is nothing new about the old OS becoming invalid after using an upgrade disc - that has always been in the EULA. But if someone wanted to revert back to XP after upgrading to Vista, I'm sure that a phone call to MS would sort it out, as there will always be situations where folks can't get drivers, or just plain don't like the new OS.

**pmckinnie** · February 27th, 2007, 11:19 PM

Hi,

I had to do a repair, ie restore, and it seems to me that I saw another selection labled reinstall there also. I wanted restore and it worked so I am a happy camper.

Cheers, mac

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