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    Resolved [RESOLVED] defrag questions restore point fragmentation?

    hello all,
    i have a simple question, i have the following report of an analysis of hdd partion c...i am constantly adding and removing new trial software...i have my hdd set as two partitons C and D and this is the result of the analysis before defrag..(xp sp2) i have since deleted the temp internet files...THE QUESTION seems a majority of the fragmentation is in restore points..should i delete older ones?? and would fragmentation in those restore points even come into play in ordinary operation? thanks john
    P.S. oh also in the intallers?

    Volume (C
    Volume size = 14.64 GB
    Cluster size = 8 KB
    Used space = 10.43 GB
    Free space = 4.21 GB
    Percent free space = 28 %

    Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation = 20 %
    File fragmentation = 39 %
    Free space fragmentation = 2 %

    File fragmentation
    Total files = 83,483
    Average file size = 116 KB
    Total fragmented files = 5,770
    Total excess fragments = 25,708
    Average fragments per file = 1.30

    Pagefile fragmentation
    Pagefile size = 768 MB
    Total fragments = 5

    Folder fragmentation
    Total folders = 7,268
    Fragmented folders = 96
    Excess folder fragments = 504

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    Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
    226 12 MB \AVG7QT.DAT
    404 54 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\6B47E.MSP
    150 9 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\E41255.MSI
    412 7 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\970765.MSP
    257 2 MB \WINDOWS\RegisteredPackages\{AAC1D942-0B38-4E37-9E4E-5B96A9DD2170}$BACKUP$\System\WMVCORE.DLL
    547 10 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\Temp\FrontPage 2002 Setup(0001)_Task(0001).txt
    440 14 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\Temp\Office XP Professional Setup(0002)_Task(0001).txt
    297 27 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\Temp\Office XP Media Content Setup(0001)_Task(0001).txt
    228 4 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\INDEX.DAT
    543 9 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\INDEX.DAT
    846 19 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\WTIV892B\dandy02[1].swf
    415 4 MB \Documents and Settings\JOHN\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\GLMV012F\tater_box[1].mp3
    140 23 MB \Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\Microsoft\SR\1033\L1033.NGR
    159 1 MB \Program Files\Logitech\QuickCamWebInstall\AppInst\setup.skin
    135 2 MB \Program Files\NDCMedisoft\Bin Demo\MBACKUP.EXE
    275 20 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP522\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
    254 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP538\A0037930.EXE
    276 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP539\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER_S-1-5-21-1659004503-1580436667-1060284298-1003
    187 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP545\A0039458.EXE
    307 20 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP518\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
    260 20 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP523\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
    300 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP524\A0035500.EXE
    143 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP524\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER_S-1-5-21-1659004503-1580436667-1060284298-1003
    892 20 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP524\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
    395 5 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP524\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SYSTEM
    132 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP525\A0035532.EXE
    215 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP526\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER_S-1-5-21-1659004503-1580436667-1060284298-1003
    261 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP533\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER_S-1-5-21-1659004503-1580436667-1060284298-1003
    139 2 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP540\A0038023.EXE
    146 6 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{1A0CB374-B0E7-42C2-97A6-3AF9B227633E}\RP540\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER_S-1-5-21-1659004503-1580436667-1060284298-1003
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    jwisneski-- You are probably aware that Windows automatically creates at least one Restore Point every 24 hours or so.
    You set the amount of space that Restore Points can use on the HardDrive from System Properties (right click My Computer|Properties|System Restore tab|Settings). When you reach that limit, each new Restore point will automatically delete the oldest Restore Point. The smaller you make that space, the fewer Restore Points, the fewer files to defrag and the faster defrag will complete. I believe a setting between 5 and 10% of the HD size is normal.
    However I do not believe manually deleting Restore Points is a good idea, even the older ones. Data from each previous Restore Point is used in making a System Restore. You can, however, either delete all Restore Points or all but the last without adverse effect. As Windows deletes older Restore Points, it apparently has some way of passing on the data to the remaining Restore Points. As I understand it, that is not the case if you manually delete Restore Points.
    So if you want fewer Restore Points, decrease the harddrive space alloted as mentioned above.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../faqsrwxp.mspx
    Jim
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    If the computer is running fine with no hiccups.... after I have cleaned up the typical HD mess of spyware, left over junk from previously installed software and GBytes of temporary internet files... I disable System Restore, reboot in Safe mode and do a defrag. Once that is done I reboot in normal mode and re-enable System Restore.
    Seems to work well for me.
    Just trying to give others a friendly hand.

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    hi welshjim and herring,
    i changed the amount of space used for restore points and that seems to have done the trick i also used a third party defrag ((AusLogics (got from downloads.com)) and completed the dfrag in a resonable time....THANKS john

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    jwisneski--Glad to hear the good news. Thanks for posting back.
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