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    Using Trim with SSDs on my Windows 10

    I have a solid state drive. I use Smart Defrag on it which shows me that when I defrag it calls it Trim instead. I have Optimize turned off on my hard drive because I use Smart Defrag instead. I did a check in dos to see what it says about my Trim being disable or enabled. These are my results:
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
    NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Disabled)
    ReFS DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Disabled)

    Do I need to enable this trim in Dos for my trim to work even though I am using Smart Defrag? Or am I fine if I keep it where it is and use Smart Defrag once a month?
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    Thanks, JB

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    You should not defrag an SSD. There is no performance gain, and it reduces the life of the drive. Defragging was useful for magnetic hard drives when you needed to read in an entire file rapidly without waiting for the platters to spin and the heads to move to read fragmented sections of the file. With modern buffering, it is less useful even on spinning magnetic drives.

    Possibly useful links:

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3188...e-devices.html

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...4-c9a4bac036e8

    https://www.howtogeek.com/170752/htg...ation-utility/

    https://helpdeskgeek.com/help-desk/s...defrag-an-ssd/

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    NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Disabled)
    ReFS DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Disabled)
    0 means ENABLED, not disabled. Note that it's a double negative. Disable Disabled = Enabled

    https://www.nextofwindows.com/what-i...-on-windows-10

    It sounds like SmartDefrag ignores SSDs. You can manually run trim, but Win10 would already do it anyway.

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    I don't defrag SSDs. Who said that??? Anyhow when you install Smart Defrag on a PC with a SSD it does not say Defrag when you open it up. I says Trim. So somehow it knows what you have and only Trims it not Defrag it.
    I am just wondering if I should stop Windows defrag schedule if I am using Smart Defrag or any other Defrag program other than the one that Windows uses.
    Last edited by jonnyb; January 29th, 2020 at 09:52 PM.
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    I don't think it makes a difference either way. It's your call. You could just ignore the SSDs in Smart Defrag and let Windows take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midknyte View Post
    I don't think it makes a difference either way. It's your call. You could just ignore the SSDs in Smart Defrag and let Windows take care of it.
    I love copy and paste and I am going to use it now:

    I am just wondering if I should stop Windows defrag schedule if I am using Smart Defrag or any other Defrag program other than the one that Windows uses. I will get a hold of them for the answer. Thanks
    Note: My questions may be to help others
    Thanks, JB

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