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January 31st, 2007, 01:12 PM
#1
PC build, any suggestions and/or corrections?
OK, so someone I know asked me how they could get the best PC possible for $600. As far as I know, to get the best system for the lowest price, it involves self building, as opposed to getting a Dell or HP or whatever.
So, I put together a parts list for him and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for different componants, or different places to shop, or point out if I've made any mistakes, or even if there are any Dell's or HP's or whatever that are better for the same (or lower) price.
Here is the parts list.
Other information:- He already has a Seagate 7200.7 80GB ATA-100 HDD that he will be using.
- I know I've got DDR2-800 RAM with a DDR2-667 mobo, but as far as I could see it was the second cheapest 2*1GB DDR2 RAM on the site (the cheapest involved a mail-in-rebate, which he'd prefer to avoid).
- This PC will be used for webdevelopment and photoshopping, also perhaps for games at a later date hence I chose a motherboard with a PCIe 16x slot.
- The price including postage currently stands at $600.08, he'd prefer not to go too far past this magic number.
I'd appreciate any opinions on this and I thank-you all for your time in reading this far.
red-wax
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ | ASUS K8N-E Deluxe | G.Skill ZX 2*1024 PC3200 2-3-2-5
Gainward GeForce 7800 GS+ 512 | Seasonic S12 600W | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 | 4 * 150GB WD Raptor X in RAID-0
blue-wax
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ | DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B | Geil Ultra Platinum 2*512 PC4200
MSI GeForce FX 5200 128 | Enermax Noisetaker 470W | HighPoint RocketRAID 1820A
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 | 8 * 300GB Maxtor MaXLine III in RAID-5, 1.91TiB storage
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January 31st, 2007, 02:57 PM
#2
Get the case without a power supply. Those antec power supplies have caused a lot of grief lately.
Excellent makes of PSU are:
Tagan
OCZ
Enermaz
Hiper
Thermaltake
Xion
Other than that, I like it.
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January 31st, 2007, 03:11 PM
#3
Ditto, Antec have lost the plot recently, i've heard too many stories to buy another one....especially after I RMA'd the one in my backup rig recently.
This isn't a bad alternative with a 430W PSU and $25 less: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119112
Liam
Desktop:I5 2500K|Asus P8Z68-V|8GB Corsair Vengeance|1280MB Nvidia 560 TI PE|1TB Seagate/60GB OCZ SSD|LG Blu-ray Writer|Corsair 750W
27" iMac:I5 2500S|12GB Crucial DDR3|ATI 1GB 6970|1TB|Superdrive|Mighty Mouse 
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January 31st, 2007, 03:35 PM
#4
Yeah, I originally picked out a power supply separately, but when he picked out that case I figured there was no harm in using the PSU it came with since Antec are a good brand. I'll have a look round at PSU's again and ask him to reconsider his choice of case, unfortunately it isn't available without PSU. I'll also see what he thinks about the CM case.
red-wax
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ | ASUS K8N-E Deluxe | G.Skill ZX 2*1024 PC3200 2-3-2-5
Gainward GeForce 7800 GS+ 512 | Seasonic S12 600W | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 | 4 * 150GB WD Raptor X in RAID-0
blue-wax
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ | DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B | Geil Ultra Platinum 2*512 PC4200
MSI GeForce FX 5200 128 | Enermax Noisetaker 470W | HighPoint RocketRAID 1820A
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 | 8 * 300GB Maxtor MaXLine III in RAID-5, 1.91TiB storage
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February 1st, 2007, 06:26 AM
#5
OK, very sorry to move the goal posts on you like this, but his price range has bumped up from $600 to $800, so I've changed the list a bit.
It now features a much better motherboard (without onboard graphics), a 7900GS and the CM case that Liam recommended. Also, rebates be damned, there are now two of them on the list, one for the graphics card, and one for slightly better and slightly cheaper RAM.
I would again appreciate any thoughts, opinions and suggestions on the new parts list.
Last edited by David Harrison; February 1st, 2007 at 06:30 AM.
red-wax
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ | ASUS K8N-E Deluxe | G.Skill ZX 2*1024 PC3200 2-3-2-5
Gainward GeForce 7800 GS+ 512 | Seasonic S12 600W | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 | 4 * 150GB WD Raptor X in RAID-0
blue-wax
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ | DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B | Geil Ultra Platinum 2*512 PC4200
MSI GeForce FX 5200 128 | Enermax Noisetaker 470W | HighPoint RocketRAID 1820A
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 | 8 * 300GB Maxtor MaXLine III in RAID-5, 1.91TiB storage
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February 1st, 2007, 08:04 AM
#6
I like it, the 7900GS is the best card for the price, even before the rebate....and a power adapter is included to run 2 x molex plugs to the PCI-E power on the card, just incase the PSU in the CM doesn't have a PCI-E connector.
Liam
Desktop:I5 2500K|Asus P8Z68-V|8GB Corsair Vengeance|1280MB Nvidia 560 TI PE|1TB Seagate/60GB OCZ SSD|LG Blu-ray Writer|Corsair 750W
27" iMac:I5 2500S|12GB Crucial DDR3|ATI 1GB 6970|1TB|Superdrive|Mighty Mouse 
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February 1st, 2007, 02:19 PM
#7
Indeedy, he'll also be making use of the DVI to VGA adapter too, since at the moment he only has a 1024x768 CRT. A better monitor is probably the next upgrade on the horizon.
red-wax
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ | ASUS K8N-E Deluxe | G.Skill ZX 2*1024 PC3200 2-3-2-5
Gainward GeForce 7800 GS+ 512 | Seasonic S12 600W | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 | 4 * 150GB WD Raptor X in RAID-0
blue-wax
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ | DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B | Geil Ultra Platinum 2*512 PC4200
MSI GeForce FX 5200 128 | Enermax Noisetaker 470W | HighPoint RocketRAID 1820A
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 | 8 * 300GB Maxtor MaXLine III in RAID-5, 1.91TiB storage
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February 4th, 2007, 07:33 AM
#8
I've read quite alot about power supply's beings of poor qualitly when you buy them with cases, I have never done so, always bought mine seperatly. If this is true then I'd suggest going for a seperate power supply, unfortunatly that means choosing another case!
Happy for someone to prove me wrong though.
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February 4th, 2007, 11:31 AM
#9
Not all power supplies that come with cases are bad. If you buy a Thermaltake case and it comes with a power supply, I'd use it. Thermaltake are good psu's. Most are junk though, but you need not buy a different case if you opt out of using the psu that comes with it. You only need to change it for a better branded psu.
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February 4th, 2007, 02:19 PM
#10
Yes, I know you can just swap it, but you're saving money and possibly hassel in the long run if you buy a solid psu at the start. thermaltake may be a good case manufacturer but they will stinge on in house psus... plus the case will will be cheaper without a psu anyway. doh!
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February 4th, 2007, 05:37 PM
#11
As Thermaltake chassis doesn't usually come with their power supply, I was speaking of, if one did. But Antec (before they went bad) shipped the Truepower with their chassis's. I know because I built three computers for my company with the Antec Soprano II's.
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February 4th, 2007, 07:33 PM
#12
Im sure photolady,i just speak of the general rule,that buying cases without psus is advised.
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February 5th, 2007, 09:46 PM
#13
Yeah, I generally stay away from the PSU's that come with cases too, but in this scenario it seems a necessary "evil". The budget is pretty tight, yet he wants a beefy system. On reflection, maybe that's the scenario with every PC build.
Perhaps in a farsee when he gets a new monitor, he can pick up a nice Seasonic PSU at the same time.
Train, liam858, HencyT and photolady, I thank-you all for your time, patience, effort and opinions. He now has a list of parts that he's happy with and will be ordering either tomorrow or the day after. I'll come back and let you all know how he's getting on with his new system when it's all up and running.
Last edited by David Harrison; February 5th, 2007 at 09:49 PM.
red-wax
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ | ASUS K8N-E Deluxe | G.Skill ZX 2*1024 PC3200 2-3-2-5
Gainward GeForce 7800 GS+ 512 | Seasonic S12 600W | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 | 4 * 150GB WD Raptor X in RAID-0
blue-wax
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ | DFI LanParty NFII Ultra B | Geil Ultra Platinum 2*512 PC4200
MSI GeForce FX 5200 128 | Enermax Noisetaker 470W | HighPoint RocketRAID 1820A
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 | 8 * 300GB Maxtor MaXLine III in RAID-5, 1.91TiB storage
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February 5th, 2007, 10:22 PM
#14
Your Welcome and please let us know!
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February 6th, 2007, 08:00 AM
#15
You're Welcome. 
Liam
Desktop:I5 2500K|Asus P8Z68-V|8GB Corsair Vengeance|1280MB Nvidia 560 TI PE|1TB Seagate/60GB OCZ SSD|LG Blu-ray Writer|Corsair 750W
27" iMac:I5 2500S|12GB Crucial DDR3|ATI 1GB 6970|1TB|Superdrive|Mighty Mouse 
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