Operation Delta 6

[greengoose1]

The time has come for a new chapter in our ongoing effort to build a couple of computers. Towards to the end of OpDe5, the discussion seemed to revolve around RAM, sticks, mobos etc, who to this inexperienced one was Chrysler, trees, and a whale(?) respectfully. Not so. We need you, the readers input, to help us so don't hold back, the computer world's water is fine. The gnomes of knowledge continue their effort to confuse us, but we have an effective weapon - that of asking questions. To see what has gone on before click Here

[greengoose1]

Morning All, No one is up to start I see. Are we still on RAM? Why is it there is so much to every subject? All I want to do is build a computer.

Bistro - status? My prayers also. Be well.

[sdtech]

greengoose1:
Question for you! Do you plan on using a scanner?

[Joseph Falconetti]

Hey I am new here, what is going on, You want to build a comp, how brutal, a simple t-bird job or like some serious dual processor with onboard RAID and ultra 160 scsi and UBER ram? I just built my personal new system , which is seriously beating my DHCP server behind me, maybe I could be of some directional help.

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[bistro]

Good morning! JF: Welcomr to this continuing saga of Operation Delta... Recommend scanning over the other Operation Delta threads in this forum for what's been going on--that way we can keep the redundancy down a bit.

[Joseph Falconetti]

I know, but reading through hundreds of messages is brutal, what is the jist, is it a UBER system or a cost effective?

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[sdtech]

Joseph Falconetti:
Its leaning towards a cost effective system that can be upgraded down the road.

[Joseph Falconetti]

Ok well I am not saying that I would know best but I built a fair amount of systems for friends, and I would recommend a
K7-900 T-Bird
MSI K7T Pro 2A with the ATA-100
about 256 meg of Micron PC 133
About a 60 GIG MAxtor 7200 RPM ATA-100
A GEFORCE GTS 2 or a Voodoo 5 5500, - STILL decieding that one ( Right Bistro )
A SB Live! Value
That help any?

Moniters is a big issue, Save your eyes.
TRUST ME I have been using crap moniters since I was 9 and now that I am nineteen my eyesight is crap and I have carpel tunnel.

SPEND THAT EXTRA ON A KILLER REFRESH RATE!!!

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[Queen_of_Hearts]

Morning
How's she doin' this morning, bistro ?

I'm still studying......
I read the section on IDA/ATA configuring. This doesn't sound too difficult to do. How many "channels" will I have ?
For now, I would only have two things to worry about, CDROM and Hard Drive. But evidently, it makes a difference if you add other things (like CD-R/RW) later.
You think I need to study this further , or will you tell me which channel what needs to be on ?.... knowing I will be adding
maybe two other things subsequently.

I noticed they didn't include the Floppy drive ? Is it because it reads differently or because CD's and Hard Drives "spin" ?

Hello Joseph Falconetti !
We are not looking for the "biggest
and the baddest" (as bistro so eloquently put it). We just want reliable> what is known to be from members experience,
upgradeable>'cause we know we'll want/need to, and reasonable...... hopefully under a thousand.
You are welcome to help us learn.

[Joseph Falconetti]

Actually I choose those options mainly because most of the equipment is rather inexpensive.

The 900 is when it would peak before it is really expensive.

the vid card, well the voodoo 5 5500, I can get for $260 canadian, But that may just be my supplier up here.

the sb live value is around 60, and the hard drive make it only 20 gig. also choose a Asus v7100 Geforce 2 MX 32 meg for around 200.

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[greengoose1]

sdtech, Yes on the scanner. Using a Visioneer 6100 now.

I add my welcome also JF. We want dependable, simple, powerful, and under a thousand. The Queen of Hearts and I will use our present periphials, and as Bistro said the other sections of OpDe have lots of info.

[bistro]

QoH--You'll be able to get 110 channels PLUS Showtime and Movie Max...Don't worry about IDE channels--you won't really have anything to do with them. Messing with those is non-existent or is far-flung future at this point. Same goes for the floppy drive. Just install it--has it's own special connector on the mobo. Plug it in and it works (for the most part--sometimes there are problems--but rare). And there's a problem: I am endeavoring to keep this whole thing as simple as possible for ya'll--don't want to bowl you over with a lot of "tech talk". Some is necessary (like terminology). Some of the links you have and will be given get fairly technical--don't get wrapped around the axle or lost in techno-jargon/details.
Most of the processes to build a computer is actually quite simple and logical. They had a contest here in the local area this Spring between about 100 teenagers, ages 13-15 (somewhat knowledgable, but no techno-geeks), to see which team of 4 could build a working computer in the shortest time. I can't remember the exact time for the winners, but I think it was about four hours. Does that give you a hint? Now, that was a "basic" system they put together. You will want to set aside a day where you have peace and quiet and can take your time. By the end of the day, maybe sooner, you'll be up and running. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised afterwards that it wasn't quite as difficult as you may be imagining right now.

P.S. Just re-read this. I hope you or anyone else didn't take this as a flame--that wasn't my intent. just trying to keep the project on line and as simple as possible.


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[Queen_of_Hearts]

Oh of course not, bistro ! I was just doing my recommended reading. Maybe I am reading the wrong one for installation purposes. Or maybe this was written for tech's. I'm just wanting a basic what's first and what plugs into what. So I'll almost know what I'm doing. All the other information happens to be there.

hummmmm kids, huh ? Yeah, that gives me a good idea. Although, you should see what mine can do with the K'NEX in a couple hours. ( I was pretty good with my ERECTOR Set )

[bistro]

This article at the PC Mechanic site that I posted way back in time is probably one of the simplest and most thorough tutorials on the subject. There will only be a slight variance depending on what you are installing.--and that we can talk you through on. Just familiarize yourself with the basic flow of building the system with that tutorial--don't have to memorize and know every little detail. Then read it again. Pretty soon you'll see how relatively simple it can be.
P.S.: On some of the procedures depicted in that tutorial, to actually DO the procedure takes less time than it did for you to READ it.

[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 12-14-2000).]

[Queen_of_Hearts]

Oh yes.....this one's much easier to read.