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    My ISP, who can find out what?

    Forgive me if I've posted in the wrong section or infact the wrong forum entirely and please move to the correct place or appropriate.

    How easy is it for someone to find your ISP? I know if you log into a site the site owner can track your ISP if they so wish, but could they then find out your ISP from a different site that they only belong to as a member and have no ownership of, or if they find your email address could they trace the ISP that way, even if you've never emailed or contacted them?


    Also if you have one email account with various mailboxes attached can someone trace back from an email address you've used and track down your other email addresses linked to the account?

    Hopefully this makes sense

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    Hi Tabby welcome to VDR
    Everthing thats conencted has an IP address and it works much like a home mail box it gives an address for the data [small packets] to be transmitted to where its reassembled into its origional form.Many places like forums log the IP address of people who connect i.e. 92.232.xxx.xx. The host name is: 92-232-xxx-xx.cable.ubr03.sutt.blueyonder.co.uk.
    Email addresses provided they are not spoofed are usually traceable back to the ISP provider.If you look at the header of an eamil you will usually see the route it took from sender to the reciever.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tabby
    but could they then find out your ISP from a different site that they only belong to as a member and have no ownership of, or if they find your email address could they trace the ISP that way, even if you've never emailed or contacted them?
    Im not sure what information your after here members are not normally given acess to such information.As to email addresses it depends wheather the ones in question have been published on the web somewhere i.e. personal homepage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpywareDr
    Your external IP Address is:


    not for me its not! you got the last two numbers wrong hehehee lol

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    Also if you have one email account with various mailboxes attached can someone trace back from an email address you've used and track down your other email addresses linked to the account

    Not very likely unless there's a link to/between them on some website that's available for public viewing. Otherwise if they're from the same domain (eg- your ISP, hotmail, yahoo, etc) then someone would need a legal order to find out any details or data linking them to the owner.

    If they're from a different domain (eg- one hotmail, one yahoo etc) then it would be very difficult and time consuming even with a subpeona to get the info.

    One can always surf anonymously if one wants to...

    eg- http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/

    http://www.google.com/search?q=anonymous+surfing

    But it removes some functionality from some websites and is usually slow.

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    I have another ISP related question if I can ask it.

    I have my Virgin email which allows me to follow the path an email has taken really no problem, but I also have a hotmail live one and gmail too and I can't find an option to be able to do this on these accounts, does anyone know if you can do this with them too or is it because they're pretty annoymous accounts with thousands of users and free that you don't get that option?

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    If you look closely following the instructions 104456 posted you can see that basic information.

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    Thanks I can do that no problem with the virgin account I just can't see how to do it with the others, I don't seem to get the display header option with those accounts

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    Also I've just read on another site that gmail don't list the senders ISP and I was wondering if this was correct...

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    I have no idea as I have never used gmail. Maybe someone will let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabby View Post
    Thanks I can do that no problem with the virgin account I just can't see how to do it with the others, I don't seem to get the display header option with those accounts
    G-mail: To obtain the full header from a message in Google Mail, open the message, click the down arrow next to 'Reply' at the top-right of the message pane, then click 'Show original.This will open a new window with the details in question listed

    Example

    Delivered-To: xxy@gmail.com
    Received: by 10.181.12.12 with SMTP id p12cs749495bki;
    Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:45:24 -0800 (PST)
    Received: by 10.210.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr11830306ebb.168.1230525923680;
    Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:45:23 -0800 (PST)
    Return-Path: <kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com>
    Received: from kizms ([190.51.166.122])
    by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 5si20072721ewy.33.2008.12.28.20.45.10;
    Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:45:23 -0800 (PST)
    Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com does not designate 190.51.166.122 as permitted sender) client-ip=190.51.166.122;
    Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com does not designate 190.51.166.122 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com
    Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:08:59 -0700
    To: <zacari@gmail.com>
    Bcc: <mexstud@gmail.com>, <xxyy@gmail.com>, <xxyy1@gmail.com>, <xxyy2@gmail.com>, <xxyy3@gmail.com>, <xxyy4@gmail.com>, <xxyy5@gmail.com>, <xxyy6@gmail.com>
    Reply-To: "Kathryn Adelia" <kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com>
    Message-ID: <1230523739.5764@peppercom.com>
    X-Sender: <kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com>
    From: "Kathryn Adelia" <kathrynadeliatm@peppercom.com>
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    Ah so gmail does display the senders origin then right okay,

    Next question can any one recommend a good and free proxy server that I can use with hotmail I've tried a couple I found in the link that Fink kindly posted and can't get access to the hotmail site or to another site I go to that needs my cookies to work also I don't want to download anything onto my computer.. TIA

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    Most webmail sites (maybe all) won't allow using those types of proxies for legal reasons. If you could use them to remain anonymous then so could spammers and any other bad guy.

    You might be able to find a non commercial surfing proxy to access webmail sites but it would take a fair bit of experimenting and will be time consuming if it even works.

    Proxies...

    http://proxy-list.org/en/index.php

    You'd need to enter each proxy (and associated port) into the proper browser option window and then test it to see if it works.

    There's no need to download anything to your computer.

    Try this proxy...

    http://proxify.com/

    and see if it will go to the site that needs cookies. (I'm sure hotmail won't allow it though)

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    An alternative is to use a portable browser like Firefox or Opera.As all files like cookies etc are stored within the portable browser folders itself none will get stored to your PCs browser.

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