IMesh a poor substitute for Napster

You would think IMesh would have improved on Napster but i found it to be a joke. Using SPYWARE, come on. Also mp3's are given in mb's. I didnt see a time listing for music. How do you know if your getting a complete song or an incomplete? Certainly not by the MB listing. And it kept telling me i wasnt connected to the internet when i know i was. How did it think i got there and the ads would open. Napster, with the song times listed so you can check to see if it is a complete song and no spyware hid in NINE places, is still the best. And acording to CNET most of the alternatives contain spyware. It'll be hard to find a decent replacement (for music) if/when Napster shuts down.
Where is that MB to min/sec converter.....

I agree, napster is the Best. Even if they put filter for some songs, I don't think they'll have Russian and Slovak songs, that I download all the time, blocked. At least not in the begining...

carson, there isn't such converter. same song w/ different bit rate will have different file size. and that if its a "fixed" bitrate, there are also "floating" ones...

In very rough approximation, an MP3 file w/ 128 bitrate (fixed), 3 minutes long will be ~3MB.

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RS...I agree with the filter thing also. If they want to block the top 40 singles or the top 200 albums...so be it. I usually look for older and different types of music. But I think by this summer they will have their pay for play version out.

As far as the MB to min/sec converter...that was a poor attempt at american humor. Should have put a smily face after it. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Now if i can only stop these "Boris and Natasha" accents in my head while reading your posts. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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"Every day I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work."

Well I'll take Imesh any day. At least you never get transfer errors after 96% of the song is downloaded. Download speeds are faster to never gets down as low as on napster. Just my opinion here though. Im sure i'll get some flak though with my opinion. See Ya!

alcan4, I have to agree with you. I have downloaded over 70 so far with Imesh. No transfer errors, then have to redownload the entire song. ANd with us with the 56k modems that means alot. The sound quality is excellant. It is like playing it off a store bought CD. I would say that atleast 75% of the songs I got from Napster had skips, or just plain low quality sound.

Also, just my opinion, but everyone has there own https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I prefer scour or my other favorite cutemx https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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ATHLON 750, GA-71XE, 256 SDRAM, 20 GB 7200 Maxtor, 32 MB G400, SB Live, win98se, Centurytel DSL

Anyone mind letting me know how to tell if you are getting the whole song or an incomplete? (when using MB's) That was my main concern. I hate to d/l a song and find the last 10 seconds or so missing...
Actually my main concern was cydoor, Their spyware. Now if there was a way around it ???
I tried it w/o loading cydoor but it would not let me d/l. Said i was not connected to the internet???

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Anyone mind letting me know how to tell if you are getting the whole song or an incomplete? (when using MB's) That was my main concern. I hate to d/l a song and find the last 10 seconds or so missing...

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Carson: The only way you will be able to know if the song you are about to download is the full version or not is if you know how long it is in minutes from the offset. From this you can work out roughly in Mb's how much it should be. For example, a 4 minute song @ 128 bit rate will be approximately 4mbs. If the song is in higher bitrate, then expect the mbs to be more. Now that's when it becomes a little tricky because it's hard to know if the larger number of mbs represent the song length or the bit rate it was recorded at!

I have imesh as well, and I must say it hasn't got a touch on Napster. I have to admit though, I like imesh's resume feature. However, overall I would have to go for Napster - hands down!

Thankfully, I am still able to download the songs I want from Napster at this present time so I'm not using imesh at all.

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Es debilem vinculum, vale!
(You are the weakest link... Goodbye!)

Thanks for the info goldust and R.Syp on the rough conversion rates.
I too am able to find my needs from Nap.(so far)
I also agree with others that a transfer error at 96% is a major pain especially with this 56K modem. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I just wish i knew what "cydoor" was capable of reaading and reporting from my computer.

Thanks again......

Your welcome Carson https://discussions.virtualdr.com/. I have to agree with Alcan4 and you about Transfer Errors on Napster when the downloading has reached the 90%+ mark - God it is annoying!

BTW, I spent the last hour or so searching for info on how CyDoor retrieves personal info by using IMesh, but what I found was just general stuff really. I did find THIS an interesting read though!

Catch ya later

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Es debilem vinculum, vale!
(You are the weakest link... Goodbye!)

goldust: Thanks for the link...Very interesting read. And helped me to identify where cydoor hides...

Has napster close down ,because i can,t find any titles running the search?

You may be right, Moxie. I've just tried searching for a few tracks and I'm getting No Matching Files Found!

I really think this is the END of Napster. The f'ing record companies have crippled Napster - such a shame - such a waste of a great service!

I'm looking for a suitable replacement, but can't seem to find a good one like Nap. Had IMesh but it is full of spyware, which I'm not going to put up with!

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Es debilem vinculum, vale!
(You are the weakest link... Goodbye!)

You guys may want to try Spyblocker with your Imesh. It supposedly fools cydoor, and others into thinking it is connecting to a server when it really isn't leaving the local machine. Go this site and read up on it. It might do the trick.

http://noads.hypermart.net/sb.htm

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I crash...therefore I am.

can you tell what spyware is?I have a cable modem and imesh,and my firewall(zone alarm) is in stealth mode.I answer yes to the question do i want to allow imesh to be a server,and yes to the other question,something like me being a client.And i answer no everything else.Does this stop the spyware or am i still at risk

ochrisl, yes you are still subjected to the spyware contained within IMesh. ZoneAlarm cannot stop from the ads displaying, nor can it remove/stop the spyware. As far as I know, IMesh will not function properly if any part of the spyware (which is Cydoor) is removed. When I had IMesh, i tried removing Cydoor from Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel. A window popped up warning me that IMesh will not work if I delete this entry. I deleted it anyway, and started having problems immediately - I couldn't connect properly to IMesh. So in the end I just got rid of the whole lot. I just use Napster now, even though it has become a little limited now due to the culling of copyrighted songs.

If you're not happy with the spyware and IMesh and want to get rid of it, and most other spyware on your computer download AdAware. It will remove all the sh&t that shouldn't be there.

EDIT: If you want to know more about spyware and what it is CLICK THIS for a detailed defenition and links to further information.

Hope this helps and happy computing https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Es debilem vinculum, vale!
(You are the weakest link... Goodbye!)

[This message has been edited by goldust (edited 03-17-2001).]

ochrisl: Ditto on goldust post.
Also to add that AdAware will not totally clean Cy_door from your computer. There were 4 instances left.
2 in registry and 2 in windows or system...cant remember but have a post on win98 forum under my name "beware adaware not aware..." It list the ones that had to be manually removed after adaware did all it could do. Thanks again to those that helped find that allusive 4th one... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Thanks for the info,what exactly does spyware do that is so bad?

ochrisl,

Spyware generally monitors your activeties on the net. Places that you go, items that you download. Consider it like someone following you around a shopping mall, writing down everything you look at or buy and then turning that information over to somebody else. The information collected about you is sold to marketers and lord knows who else. Some companies are now trying to connect this information with a person's real identity now. There is also some spyware that will read your harddrive to see what kinds of things you have installed and send that information out. On another point...spyware is widely known to degrade a computers performance on the net and leads to errors and crashes.

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I crash...therefore I am.