Should HDD make and models be listed in....? - PART 2

Thought i'd better start new thread incase other becomes currupt from to many posts

Heres Part 1...
Should HDD make and models be listed in the device manager?

Just cheched the box, but still same prob... exept ASD dosn't have a prob anymore...

ALSO: windows did NOT see the machine on boot before the bios was fully set up, i made sure of that, and i've also restored HDD with Ghost since to see if that helped...

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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QUOTE: Are u using acpi or is it disabled in the bios?

If you mean the "Power managment" setting in BIOS which disables its own Standby settings then that is DISABLED

I can se a fresh 98 install coming on... uuugghhh! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I've now removed ALL entries under "Display Adapters" & "Sound, Vid & Game Ctrlers" in device manager...

Rebooted and allowed it to auto detect devices upon reboot..... All detected!

but, still not fixed... what other related things cam i remove or try out? ...to save the dreded reinstall tomorrow!

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Just my opinions from past experience...and guessing. Post back to let others know if our ideas worked!
With a good backup program u can UNDO (almost) all your mistakes & bad installs etc in Windows!

Have u enabled acpi in the bios.dont enable the bios power mangement.Maybe try an overinstall of win98 with acpi enabled. Read this article http://agent.microsoft.com/hwdev/desinit/retailup.HTM
See if that helps


NOTE: In Windows 98, the /p j switch is required to enable ACPI support. Windows 98 maintains a BIOS list for ACPI computers, so as BIOS manufacturers create a new valid ACPI BIOS, this is the mechanism for causing Windows 98 to recognize it.
http://support.microsoft.com/support...-CA&SD=gn&FR=0
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I've done so much with so little for so long i can do almost anything with nothing

[This message has been edited by Boffo1 (edited 10-10-2001).]

Hi, i cant find "ACPI" in BIOS... only found "Power managment" which is and always has been disabled...

Thx Boffo1, i'll try an overinstall b4 i try the reinstall, thats if i cant solve this before i go to bed in about 30mins... zzZZz

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Does msinfo32 show any devices under the problem devices branch ?
I'll still take a wild stab at IDE controllers. Try the intel pv2.2 again and if no satisfaction try clipping it back to 33.

[This message has been edited by IMM (edited 10-10-2001).]

according to what i found on your motherboard it is acpi ready.try an overinstall with the /pj switch. ive had good results with it.

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I've done so much with so little for so long i can do almost anything with nothing

msinfo32 does NOT show any devices under the problem devices branch...

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Going to add this to the Registry from Boffo1's link

To enable ACPI after Windows 98 is installed, run Regedit and go to the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Detect

Create a new DWORD value called "ACPIOption" and set it equal to 1.
In Control Panel, run Add New Hardware and choose hardware detection. ACPI should be detected and installed. After the system is rebooted, all ACPI-enumerated devices will be set up again.
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I edited my previous post so look at what i said about the pv2.2. One of the more interesting things it does (i think) is to remove drvidx.bin and drvdata.bin from c:\windows\inf You could do this manually if you want as well. If you've ever seen windows display a message about building a new driver information database - you now know where that goes. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I'll strongly advise you to stay away from ACPI https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

[This message has been edited by IMM (edited 10-10-2001).]

Does acpi show up in device manager under system it may already be installed and were barkin up the wrong tree. At what point does the shutdown stop.

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I've done so much with so little for so long i can do almost anything with nothing

Just tried clipping it back to 33 again and retrying the intel pv2.2...

done above regedit, but didn't detect anything PnP, but just noticed that if i continue it to detect non PnP the it finds a Modem, but Modem is allready installed in device manager. i'll give that a try anyway.

Boffo1: no ACPI in device manager/sytem devices... closest thing is Advanced Power Management Support... is that the same?

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Heres another description of problem for the benifit of new readers/helpers:

After the Screen that shows the Usual "IT IS NOW SAFE TO TURN OFF YOUR PC" i now get below error insted of just switching off:

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Windows:
A fatal exception 06 has occured at F000:0000FE2A.
The current application will be terminated.

* Press any key to terminate the current application.
* Press C+A+Delete again to restart your computer. You will
lose any unsaved information in all applications.
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If i press any key to continue then the monitor displays no signal message and the PC fan/lights are still on... If C+A+Delete it restarts as it would do...

This happens every time i "shutdown" but if i "Restart" all is normal!

but, sigh... no luck yet!

What is in your startup (msconfig) and what is starting from autoexec.bat (eg an antivirus).
If it's not there then the network is the next possiblility. (older DLC does it for instance)

Have you tried pmtshoot?
You can get it at http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q185/9/49.ASP

Here's the shutdown troubleshooter http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;en-us;Q202633

[This message has been edited by IMM (edited 10-10-2001).]

Tried letting it install the found modem... didn't help...

Then i removed all modems... let it auto detect... it found 1 but did NOT install it (i'll get that back if i reghost anyway)

so any more ideas?

i'm going to bed now so i'll try any new stuff when I awake... if no success i'll reinstall to rule out problem with new BIOS update!

IMM Just incase Reinstall dont work could u tell me if this is how i restore my OLD BIOS?

I backed it up by typing "awdflash somethin.bin mysave.bin /pn /sy" and have a file called "mysave.bin" which is my original BIOS...

I think this is what i should type to restore it... "awdflash mysave.bin mysave2.bin /py /sn /cd /cp /cc" am i right?

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

yup - you're right

I told you it's probably not worth doing - when you find the cause you'll probably kick yourself though https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Heres my AUTOEXEC.BAT file

mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
mode con codepage select=850
keyb uk,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\keyboard.sys

SET GRIP=C:\PROGRA~2\GAMEUT~1\GRAVIS\CORESO~1
SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~2\GAMEUT~1\GRAVIS\CORESO~1

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in MSCONFIG there are a masive 30 things loading... i know what they all are apart from 5 which are:

LoadQM
vptray
Fpx
defwatch
rtvscn95

I'm gunna now disable ALL except "SYSTRAY & TASKMON" i shall also try an older Ghost BackUp which does NOT have NortonAV on it and a few less other things too...

Thx again for all the help, Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Just my opinions from past experience...and guessing. Post back to let others know if our ideas worked!
With a good backup program u can UNDO (almost) all your mistakes & bad installs etc in Windows!

LA, are you sure it is after the "It is Now safe to turn off.." and not "Windows is Shutting Down" screen this is occuring.

It has always been my experience that by the time you get there Windows has terminated all drivers and BIOS APM is in charge. It either shutsdown automatically, or if APM is disabled waits for a manual power off.

If you have ACPI, it should be Here

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What the Dormouse said

i guess theres no ACPI support then as its not there and yes it is AFTER the "safe to turn off PC" screen right at the excact point where it would normally automatically power off...

This seems wierd as b4 the BIOS update it was OK without ACPI!

Thx IMM for confirming that for me... i will ne happy tho if i can keep this BIOS and reinstall with no probs!

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

disabled almost everything as i said from MSCONFIG but still doesn't help...

My PC is wierd!

EDITED as i made a mistake... as i was pressing shutdown shortcut button on Kybd insted of Start>shutdown route... Kybd button dont work propper 'cuz stuff disabled in MSCONFIG!

[This message has been edited by LotusAstra (edited 10-10-2001).]

vptray
defwatch
rtvscn95
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above three are from NORTON antivirus
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what's the path and file information on those?

Fpx

LoadQM



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Remember, there is always something we forgot to ask.
And, it's only FREE advice!

Kind regards, Jaak

Fpx= c:\windows\system\mnmsrvc.exe
LoadQM= loadqm.exe... all it says but i found it in c:\windows by searching

see my above EDIT too, i got confused for a sec...

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

OK! going out for a bit, when i get back i'm gunna do the final test and overinstall/reinstall OS... if that don't work and there are no more replies/ideas, then i have no choice but to return the OLD BIOS and pray.

Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

stopped watching this a while ago because you said you were going to sleep https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

LoadQM...is something to do with MSN messenger.....apparently unnecessary.....sorry I don't know any more than that!!!

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A life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

IMM, i've been asleep, only 4 hours tho... Had 2 b up early.... going to do the Reinstall now!

Thx Sarni for the info m8 https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Regards https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

[This message has been edited by LotusAstra (edited 10-10-2001).]

Over-install didn't work... seems to me this BIOS is screwed... gunna try fresh install anyway... if no success then i think i have no choice but to Flash BIOS again...

Do u aggree? or is there other options?

I've just got around to doing the fresh install... u've guessed it! didn't work either, so I restored the Original BIOS to make sure there was no permanent change and relief at last, SHUTDOWN IS OK again now...

Weird, i don't understand why fresh install didn't shutdown properly... i was quite supprised to say the least...

But anyway... not to worry, BIOS back to original now... and the original UDMA problem has been solved earlier and all seems OK now... its been a good learning experience with the BIOS stuff anyway even tho not exactly what i expected...

Most apreciated for ALL that spared your time and efforts helping, without you guys i would probably never have fixed it...

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I wonder if theres a newer BIOS version available... lol https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I've just got around to doing the fresh install... u've guessed it! didn't work either, so I restored the Original BIOS to make sure there was no permanent change and relief at last, SHUTDOWN IS OK again now...

Weird, i don't understand why fresh install didn't shutdown properly... i was quite supprised to say the least...

But anyway... not to worry, BIOS back to original now... and the original UDMA problem has been solved earlier and all seems OK now... its been a good learning experience with the BIOS stuff anyway even tho not exactly what i expected...

Most apreciated for ALL that spared your time and efforts helping, without you guys i would probably never have fixed it...

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I wonder if theres a newer BIOS version available... lol https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Hey there's always the 6110 version I pointed out on the ftp site.

Now that you've done it will look easy (but of course when you go over to your friend's place to do it you will find an AMI bios). https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Want one that says 61X but not lxc (its 6113) ?? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

[This message has been edited by IMM (edited 10-10-2001).]

The 6110 is the same as the original version... i've had a look about for a v.CB6113, but no luck yet... maybe 1 day https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Many thx https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Just my opinions from past experience...and guessing. Post back to let others know if our ideas worked!
With a good backup program u can UNDO (almost) all your mistakes & bad installs etc in Windows!