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My computer => properties shows Total space
25GB, Used 21.2, Free 3.76 I added the space used in every Folder in Explorer and it comes to 2.2GB.
Norton Utilities is telling me that my hard drive has only 15% left.
What am I missing and where can I check for problems?
Thanks!
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. :D
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98
You are not adding the formatting information the disk needs to prepare the fat/sector/and partition information.
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"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
"Even crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it."
So...Windows and Norton agree that 20 gig has vanished.
Both recognize both drives.
I did not see anything like this in the MicroSoft Knowledge base.
I just built a KT7 Turbo Limited...it does not have on-board raid...but I did have some goofy system reports.(Vcore, prilimarily.)
Could this have anything to do with the raid controller? Or is it not involved since you don't have anything on IDE 3 and 4?
I'll look around the MSI stuff again...but I didn't notice anything while I was checking my little problemo.
Consider this a bump. Nick...get some sleep https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Hey, I resemble that remark...
My computer => properties shows Total space 25GB, Used 21.2, Free 3.76 I added the space used in every Folder in Explorer and it comes to 2.2GB.
Norton Utilities is telling me that my hard drive has only 15% left.
I thought everything was right and the 2.2GB was a mistype for 22GB. Sorry. Guess I just refused to believe what I was reading.
I once saw a win386.swp file get very large and repeated three times(in the 20+GB range).
Have you tried ancient chkdsk in dos just as another means of verification? Good luck.
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"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
"Even crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it."
Try fdisk /status . Dos
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Does someone else use your computer? It could be hidden files. Or you could have a virus that logs keystrokes and mouse movements... I forget it's name.
A little more information. I have a D:\ that is slave to my CD R/W for backup, it has nearly all the folders that are on C:\, not the Windows folder. And it shows 2.2gb of used space. I also just added 128mb of Crucial RAM, it's been working fine.
Nick Grana, are you talking about looking at the partition information in Fdisk? I have two Win386.swp files. one in C:\ =0 bytes and C:\Windows =10,632 bytes. I will run chkdsk when I get off line.
Renovator, I do use IDE 3 & 4, I have a screwie Raid 0 array with a 20gb and a 6.5gb with different ATA's. It has always shown as 26gb when it should show 13gb. Don't know why and it has always run great (over a year). When I make any changes, like now, I don't think I will go back with a raid array.
Train, I will look at fdisk /status when I get off line. Is this option 4 of do you type
fdisk /status at the dos prompt? I'll try both.
Corona, No hidden files. Norton AV updated 9/1/01 says no virus.
Thanks Guys! now I am going to check the prices of hard drives. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. :D
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98
If you use Norton Utilities to protect files in your recyclee bin some files than windows thinks is deleted may not be. I have a similar problem and turning Norton protection off seems to fix it.
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Regards Blue
[This message has been edited by Aussiblue (edited 09-04-2001).]
Aussiblue, I don't have Norton protect on the recycle bin, turned it off a long time ago. Thanks
Nick Grana, results of ckdsk Could there be a problem with the file Allocation?
26,239,076 kb total space
3,981,244 kb free
4,096 bytes in each allocation unit
6,559,769 total allocation units on disk
995,311 available
653,312 bytes total memory
535,792 bytes free
Train, results of fdisk /status. It don’t give me much info. Why no free and usage 100%?
Disk Drv Mbytes free usage
1 25674 100%
a: 25674
2 6103 100%
b: 6103
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. :D
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98
Ok, I'm awake now. Still dumb and ugly though. Beauty fades and dumb is forever. Got both.
You have show all files clicked on (folder options)
Open Windows Explorer and vies details and
Status Bar.
You did this already, Sorry.
Start at drive and hightlight and read the data at bottom. X number of objects,
x size. Just do this for each folder and see if an unusually large GB size pops up. Then localize it.
By the way, you can do the chkdsk option at an open dos window. Tells free and used space, again just to see if matches others.
Good luck.
What your computer is telling you and what Norton is confirming is the same but you say you're only using about 2.2GB? Is this right?
P.S. I have two Win386.swp files. one in C:\ =0 bytes and C:\Windows =10,632 bytes. "This is good"
I will run chkdsk when I get off line.
"Let us know results!"
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"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
"Even crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it."
[This message has been edited by Nick Grana (edited 09-04-2001).]
Now you have more than enough confirmations.
You're wrong and the data is right. Sorry.
Data does not lie. You even said yourself:
It has always shown as 26gb when it should show 13gb Now that's not a confidence builder either.
You may need to strip this bugger down to lowest common denominator and see what comes to the top.
This will be fun when prob is found, but seeing reporting wrong from start is confusing. Still thinking............
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"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
"Even crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it."
I'm not sure if this is what is confusing windows or not.
From the CHKDSK, the disk is allocated in 4K clusters. A 20GB drive should be set up as 16K clusters.
Did you create this drive by using a Ghost-like utility, to copy your files from a smaller drive?
If you run a Scandisk or a Defrag, do you get "Out of Memory" errors?
(if you do run a scandisk, ensure that you have autofix errors UNselected, to allow you to see the errors before scandisk "tries" to "fix" them)
[This message has been edited by WhitPhil (edited 09-04-2001).]
You can put all I know about RAID in a thimble.
But I am really wondering how it can help...with the drives you have...even if it worked perfectly.
I don't know why you have a swap in the root of C: (Is that a RAID addtion?). Not quibbling, I just don't understand it.
I am not suggesting a BIOS flash...I will just mention that one of the more recent MSI 6330 Bios' address a problem with the a particular 40 gig WD drive and the way it is recognized. I'm just suggesting that your drives may be fine...but they have a wacky relationship with your mobo/comtrollers.
I think I'd be trying to get to a plain vanilla set-up at some point (no RAID), If you can't find a the missing space.
But how much are you really looking for ? If the striped array limits you to twice the smaller drive, that's the 13 gig. Minus the 2.2 gig is 10.8 gig.
If a train leaves Boston...
Renovator I am not up on Raid either that's why I have this screwie setup. and I am going to go to the plain brown wrapper when I buy another hard drive 40gb, taking a lot more and have more grandkids. But I would like to solve this.
Whitphil, when I set this Raid array I set it to 4k clusters then used partition magic to change it to 16, but after the version I had would not work with Raid so it looks like it did not do it.
I ran Find =>Advanced =>all files and folders, atleast 1000 kb. I had 393 files.
I broke it down rounding to the next 10mb.
352 under 10mb = 3520 mb
8 under 20mb = 160 mb
20 under 30mb = 600 mb
5 under 40mb = 200 mb
5 under 50mb = 250 mb
2 under 60mb = 120 mb
1 85 mb
Total 4,935 mb Is that not less
than 5gb?
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. :D
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98
I'm agree with you. Solving this would take a few of us to school.
Just for the heck of it ( I really don't think this could do it) check in your Windows directory, in Explorer, with all files showing...and see if you have any "ff..." files. They will be in pairs. They are tiny, but would eat a cluster at a time.
Just check, to eliminate the possibility.
Renovator, I looked in c:\windows and there were no file ff or with an extension .ff
also ran find *.ff . Is that what you were saying?
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. :D
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98
Sorry...they start with "ff..." have a bunch of address numbers and a .TMP extension.
If they were there...you would have seen them as you scrolled down.
I'm just trying to come up with goofy missing file space...I really don't think this is a file problem...but who knows.
BTW...is this an ABit or MSI board...looks like I may have fallen asleep too.
Edit: Can you verify how scandisk reacts...as WhitPhil queried ?
[This message has been edited by Renovator (edited 09-04-2001).]
Renovator, no ff files.
It is an Abit Kt7-Raid MOBO.
I hope I won't have problems setting this thing up without Raid using IDE 3 &4. I have all kinds of FAQ's and data I downloaded about RAID. The MOBO manual is written in pigeon english some times. It some times leaves the uninformed confused.
I am sorry if I don't respond very quickly. I have to get off line to free the phone up
once in a while.
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98
[This message has been edited by pfoerste (edited 09-04-2001).]
If you are letting windows handle the swap file, then win386.swp should appear only in windows directory. Delete the other one. May have to do it in pure dos.
Also what WhitPhil saw, I failed. You should have 8KB allocation sizes, but you said you knew it and set it that way.
Do you have room on the 6GB drive to copy all c drive, minus win386.swp, then fdisk, remove all partitions, recreate partition, activate, format, paste/copy data back from 6GB. You know how to master the slave and vice versa for all this copy/paste routines?
Just thinking out loud as to what approach I would take. This is it. Good luck.
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"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
"Even crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it."
hi,
I can but suggest you start burning data backups.
raid don't really like different speed and size drives..., and one of these days, your data may go footsie.
let's say what I know about fits in one sixth of a gill, but I did experiment with it and have abandoned it since I felt that going for performance alone, would have jeopardised my data.
(did not have enogh disks for striped mirror)
(I do a lot of diskswapping, and once one drive gets out of the loop... bye data)
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Remember, there is always something we forgot to ask.
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Kind regards, Jaak
THANKS EVERYONE!!
I am going to buy a new WD 40gb hard drive Thursday when I go to Gainsville. Then I am going to fdisk the 20gb and 6.5gb that are on the Raid array, put the 40gb as my c:\ IDE3 master, the 20gb as my d:\ IDE4 master and leave my other 6.5gb as e:\ (which is slave to my CD R/W). And not have a Raid array.
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Too much knowlege never makes for simple decisions. :D
KT7-Raid w/800 T-Bird,
WD 20GB ATA66 & Sam 6.5GB ATA33, 320MB RAM, Viper V550
SB Live, Win98