[RESOLVED] Setting up a new installation

This relates back to a problem I had a few months ago. Win7 was screwed up in the Gateway (see my sig,) and I finally decided to do a fresh reinstall, keeping the data partition as is. But waiting 2 months has left me without some of your tips.

Here's what I have:

HP (this one)
--C Programs and System
--D Data

Gateway
--C fresh install of Win 7, Classic Shell, Programs will follow
--D Data (both data drives are identical)

Because I had problems networking the previous installation, is it wiser to use the same UserID on both machines?
Any other caveats before I do settings?
Wasn't there something about calling it a Work Network even though it's a Home network?

(Don't mention the EOL. I'm not moving to 10)

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Because I had problems networking the previous installation, is it wiser to use the same UserID on both machines?

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If you want to use password protected sharing, then yes, you would want the same username and password on both systems.

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...dows-7-and-xp/

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Wasn't there something about calling it a Work Network even though it's a Home network?

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You want to use the same WORKGROUP name.

Thanks, MidKnyte. There's no XP machine involved here.

I'm using these tutes:
https://www.howtogeek.com/school/win...aring/lesson9/
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...ith-homegroup/

"You want to use the same WORKGROUP name."

Not that; I know that. There was some reason for calling it a Work Network rather than Home Network, but I don't remember what it was. I have to go back through my notes if you don't remember.

Possibly useful link:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-6f45f3c750d5

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There is only one difference between the home and work network profiles which comes up when you connect for the 1st time.




A home network profile allows you to set up or join a HomeGroup, on a work profile you can't. Therefore what it actually means by using the term "business" is wrong and the security differences are limited.




One of the limitations of a workgroup is accessing a share requires the credentials of all users to be set up on the host pc, setting up a HomeGroup automatically creates a common user between computers which could be considered a weak security setting..

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Many thanks. :-) Sounds like why I screwed it up the first time around.

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Thanks, MidKnyte. There's no XP machine involved here.

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I thought we went over this in the last time. It doesn't matter that it's not XP. You will want to use the same steps.

The network "location" type is a completely separate thing. Also Homegroups are completely different from Workgroups. Pretty sure I went over this in the other network thread.

OK, I just found my notes. Thanks.

Networking went smoothly using a work group. :-)

Excellent! Thanks for the update.

I thought it was. Actually not.:eek:

I see both machines in Network, and I have the same user name in both, but they're both telling me I don't have permission to open the folders. Please tell me this is something simple before I toss them through the 6th floor window.

Which folders are you trying to access that are giving you the errors?

Can you access ANY folders on the networked machines?

I listed all the data folders separately rather than the whole D drive. Can't access any.
My Username folder in Users, so not Desktop or AppData>Roaming where all my program profiles are.

I can access Public folders, which I hadn't added to the list, but appeared by itself.

By the time I get this working, one of these 10-year-old machines will die. It has fallen way down in my list of priorities.
And now you know why I hate smart-phones too.

If you're having password issues, did you try turning off Password protected sharing?
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...dows-7-and-xp/

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If you want any user to have access the public shares turn off password protection. This is located in Advanced Sharing Settings toward the bottom of the list.

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I can access Public folders, which I hadn't added to the list, but appeared by itself.

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It sounds like you enabled Public folders. You can turn that off if you want. It's mentioned in the same link I posted.

I've never had PW protection and don't now. The other 3 on that page are already turned on.

If you selected "Turn off password protected sharing", then it shouldn't matter if you have the same usernames/passwords.

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The other 3 on that page are already turned on.

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Then you do have Public folders enabled. That's why they show up.

What procedures did you do to enable sharing on the folders? Try this:
Right-click on the "shared" folder and click Properties
Click on the Sharing tab, then click Advanced Sharing...
Check Share this folder
Click Permissions
Make sure the Everyone group is listed
If you want other users to be able to add/delete files, check Allow Full Control
Click OK
Click OK again
Click Close

There are no other users, and I've set up the same username on both machines, so what's the difference between allowing MyUserName and Everyone?

My point was to test if you could access the share or not. The "Everyone" group should allow access with password protection turned off. That's the easiest way to allow access.

What steps did you use to enable sharing for your "shared" folder? What users are listed on the Permissions page? Like I said, the easiest thing to do is enable sharing for the "Everyone" group.

I have all the folders now, took only 6 months. I right-click>Properties>Share>Advanced Sharing>"Share this folder" add "everyone" if not there.

I double-check this with rt click>Share with>Specific people--make sure Everyone and MyUserName are in permissions, Everyone has "read-write" permission.

:DMy luck-- one or both of these old machines will die soon.

This is risky from the security point of view, isn't it? Aren't hackers included in "Everyone?"

If hackers get access to one of your systems, they will likely make themselves an administrator anyway, so it isn't that much of an additional risk. As long as your router is up-to-date on its firmware and you follow good security practices, it is not something I would worry about.