oops! rebooting computer this morning

Saw in P.O.S.T only 8 gb ram. Not good. Non returnable G.skill too. Bought from Newegg.

Downloading UBCD new version now.

Windows 7 64bit index says I have 12gb (7.xx) available usage) Not good either, I have 16gb installed, two sticks of 8 each. Only had this built about four months now. Not happy!!! LOL

When first built P.O.S.T showed 16gb installed, Windows index showed 16gb installed, don't know when it stopped showing the correct amount, cause I never shut down, and only restarted when necessary. Wasn't having any problems either. No slowness, no glitches, nothing.

I'll let you know what UBCD says tomorrow. Cause I won't run that test until tonight.

All fixed. Memtest found no errors, saw both modules. and so I got to thinking, perhaps a slot went bad.
Shut computer down, swapped memory to two other slots, viola, 16GB showing in P.O.S.T again and also in Windows again.

Might be time for a new motherboard in a few months. Steering away from Gigabtye this time.

Hey photolady, good to see you're back in business . . . both here on VirtualDr :) and on your possibly flaky motherboard. :(

Yeah and this is an Asus board. :(

I think my problem is buying motherboards on Amazon. I need to find somewhere else to get them. Fry's maybe. They have a Fry's in Georgia but I can't drive up there and I don't know if they still ship out of their stores like they used to do.

Newegg.com - check for sale items and the review ratings.

Nope, not going there ever again. Doc knows of the problems I've had lately with them, so no, not newegg. I was a newegg'r for about 20 years up until this last year, then I had a major problem with them. So, nope, not going to happen anymore.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/ often has competitive prices and good service.

yeah, I forgot about them, Doc. I buy a lot of photo gear from them, and am even registered with them. I'll see what they have closer to the first.

My biggest problem is trying to stay away from AMD's Ryzen boards.

Oh, https://www.antonline.com/ is another I use occasionally.

Never built myself an AMD setup ... (yet?).

I've built my own since I joined VDR in 2002.
I guess the first one wasn't AMD though, but the second one was because parts were cheaper. I couldn't afford to buy Intel.

Yep, I remember. You've been an AMD fan for as long as I've known you. Their new Ryzen is interesting/tempting.

Yeah, but Ryzen insists you run Windows 10, and I'm holding out until I have to go that way. I have one more year of support from Microsoft for Windows 7, then I'll have to switch. I did find a MSI board that will still run Windows 7 but I'd have to change to DDR4 memory (which is cheap right now too) and a different CPU. Which I'm also trying to avoid since I just bought both recently.


When I joined, Train, GreyGoose, and the other older guys helped me build my first computer. I think I gained half my first 300 posts with questions on what to buy and how to put it together that first month. :D

I am building a new system now (Intel). It will have Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC and Linux Mint (Cinnamon) installed. I should be able to start installing Windows this weekend.

I can't afford Intel. And the programs I use won't run on Linux. Forget Windows 10, I already said I'm not going there until I have to.

I will probably keep some systems on Windows 7 also, but I want to have a Windows 10 system set up and ready BEFORE Windows 7 "support" ends. Actually, you could build a version of the same system I am building for not much $$$. I used an i9 CPU, but you could use a $65 dual core Celeron in the same system, and I don't think it would be too slow for most applications.

Have they got an Intel that runs at 4Ghz at the same price as my 8 core AMD?

Not a chance. An AMD 8-Core is cheaper ($5) than the 2-Core Intel. You can get a motherboard for about the same money.

Links: (I know they are NewEgg, but they do have good information).

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16819113284

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16813132836

That's the motherboard and cpu I have now. The motherboard with the shot memory slots.

For AM3+ boards, it looks like you have a choice of ASUS or Gigabyte, or 1 MSI board. None have stellar ratings unfortunately.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=1&N=100007625 600138080

I had one of these, but I don't think it was the board that was bad, it was the memory that was bad.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16813128602

That's when I bought the new Gskill that I have in this one, that's working fine now.

As long as this one stays working with the memory in the slots they're in, I'm not going to change it. According to the manual the memory can be installed in pairs in either of the slots as they are now. But if I decide to max the memory, 32GB, then I'll have to change the board out. I was first thinking this was a Gigabyte board but it's an Asus.

The only way I would consider Windows 10 is like jdc2000, Enterprise version. Other than that, it'll be a Linux distro.

What is different about the Enterprise version?

Show me a GUI of the Enterprise version vs the regular windows 10. And what about Microsoft take over your computer tactics, is that in the Enterprise version as well?

The Enterprise LTSC does not get "Feature" updates, so you don't get the new bling-bling and eye-candy while having useful features that you were using removed, which helps with not breaking software that you had set up and working. With the Enterprise (and Pro) version you can also delay the Security and Quality updates so you don't get hosed when they have bugs. The Enterprise version also allows you to reduce the data collection telemetry to a level that only reports minimum information needed when a reportable error occurs.

The drawback of course is the cost. Enterprise LTSC is an "Upgrade" only, so you need Win 10 Pro and then you pay for the Enterprise LTSC license, which gets security updates for 10 years.

The GUI is the same (initially) for all versions. I am going to add one of the shells that restores the look to that of previous versions of Windows (Classic Shell or its fork, or StarDock Start10).

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Originally Posted by photolady

Show me a GUI of the Enterprise version vs the regular windows 10.

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Microsoft.com > Compare Windows 10 editions

FWIW, noticed this this morning: TechCommunity.Microsoft.com > Windows IT Pro Blog > Windows Update for Business and the retirement of SAC-T by John Wilcox - Feb 14, 2019

Thanks for the information but I'm not changing motherboards or OSs anytime soon. This one is working fine now. And I still have Jeep to pay for before any funds are available to buy new stuff.

Speaking of keeping it cheap, Windows 10 -- the complete version -- will run on a ~$35 Raspberry Pi 3 Model 3 B (or B+).

ExtremeTech.com > Windows 10 Now Runs on the Raspberry Pi