Thermal Paste-Grease-Adhesive

Hi ALL. HAPPY NEW YEAR to you All.

Is Thermal Grease or Thermal Adhesive as good as Thermal Paste.

I have managed to get another OEM K8N-E Deluxe board so need Paste, but I don't want to pay more than £4. I have cleaned the AMD 64 processor and the Heatsink with Pure alcohol. (clean as a whistle). If I set this up outside the Tower, what should I attach. RAM, processor, Heatsink/fan, Graphics card. Anything else?? Been such a LooooonG time since I put a PC together and my memory ain't so good.
THANKS.

Do not use adhesive on the hsf. MX-2 would be my pick for TIM as it is non-conductive.

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... Is Thermal Grease or Thermal Adhesive as good as Thermal Paste...

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The term, thermal grease/compound/paste... generally refers to the same thing.

The term, thermal adhesive on the other hand, usually refers to those liquid(s) intended to permanently bond the item(s).

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... RAM, processor, Heatsink/fan, Graphics card...

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That's it, mobo connected to power source.

I've always used Arctic Silver, and I've always had excellent results. Any top quality brand should be OK though, but don't use cheap stuff, it's just not worth it.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/

OK I bought Thermal Grease and spread it thinly over the heatsink. I have put everything together, switch on power at socket, green light on mobo lights up, and all that happens is the Heatsink fan plus rear fans spin then stop. Nothing else works.
Any ideas. Bear in mind the PSU was tested when the other mobo stoped working n it was ok.

Did you make certain that you plugged the sqare 4-pin 12 volt connector? If you don't hook that up then you get exactly what you are experiencing.

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yep! checked that un so many times it's done me head in..lol
Fan spins on rear of PSU, Both Fans Spin on rear, Fan spins on Heatsink, Lights come on in front of tower but PC don't fire up. Me thinks it is the Processor. I said that to three PC shops that looked at it last year and they all said it was mobo. I don't get beeps as there be no front speaker in this pc. What do you think Supersparks. ? I might buy an AMD 3000+ Newcastle on eBay. There are three for sale out there, used but working and I can get money back within 7 days if not satisfied. All from England. Cost approx £27 to £29

P.S-- I took that 4 pin 12volt pin off of the Board and fired up. That did exactly the same as above, plugged in and unpluged.

Most of the time it would be the motherboard, CPU failure is rare. However, as this is a replacement mobo, I think that there's a good chance that in this case iot is the CPU. Unfortunately there is no practical way of testing one, all you can do is substitute a different CPU.

Before you do that though, take the mobo out of the case, but leave it plugged in. Lay it on some insulating material, and try and fire it up then. That eliminates any shorts causing the problem.

PROBLEM there. The wires are not long enough to conect to mobo when taken out.
I will lay some newspaper inside case and rest mobo on that. Will let you know.

UPDATE---Put mobo inside case resting on newspaper, Still the same as before. CPU fan starts, PSU fan starts then stops. NOTHING.

Golly, with the worst snow UK has had in years I guess my cpu will arrive in a months time. LOL
I got a small tiny speaker that's attached to the mobo by the Start pins, but I never get any sounds (bleeps) from it. Never have done.
So me thinks it could be cpu

Thanks Supersparks.

If your attached hard drive is ATA (not SATA) make sure it's jumpered properly for master.

BTW & FWIW, I have gotten into the habit of assembling a new system completely outside of its intended case and bench-testing it before its final assembly inside the case. It sure eliminates a raft of guesswork in the rare instance the system doesn't work afterward; and at that point, it's almost always inadvertent contact between mobo and case.

I do the same as lgbpop. Four screws hold the psu in, so it is not a great deal to attempt running it external to the case.

How you going lg?

HDD is SATA. Attached the HDD and Disconected HDD, still the same. Won't power up to start HDD anyway. Me thinks it is the cpu seeing as I got TWO Asus K8N-e Deluxe boards and one is new. Only fixed the old componants to it on Monday & retried umpteen times Tuesday. CHEERS.

Clear CMOS jumper removed?

I'm mostly of the opinion that it's the CPU too. But the PSU fan stopping is very unusual. If you don't have a PSU tester, remove the mobo power connector and short the pins out, just to make sure that it starts up OK.

Testing PSU Voltages

Not Cleared CMOS. Will try that later.
Just Took Battery out, did jumpers from 1&2 to2&3 for 10 sec, put back, STILL the same.

I think Nick was right about the CPU, they rarely go. I doubt your "new" Asus board is really new, probably been on a shelf somewhere and a few years old would be my guess. Are the caps in good shape visually?

Sure would help if you had a different brand or model board to check with.

Doing Okay, Crunchie, thanks....still seeking that elusive employment situation though....:(

Funnily enough I did ask for a Gigabyte board but he had run out. Then he discovered he had the Asus K8n-E Deluxe which is same as my old board.
In an email to me he also says its rare for the cpu to go. He had a batch of the k8n-e Deluxe boards and all that he has sold so far is working.
If I go and buy another cpu I would probably have to buy a PSU as well to be sure, and I don't think that is worth it for Old PCs. Total would be about £223. Can buy a full Tower system for £350.
Aldi is selling this in morning for £350 http://www.medion.com/ms/aldi/md8339/uk/?refPage=aldi
Am I correct in thinking that if PSU fan starts then stops immediatly same as Heatsink fan and rear tower fans that means PSU is ok?? I'm reluctant to try that pin thing on psu as I hate electric after haveing a bad shock a few years ago. two repair shops tested it with the tester and they said it was ok at the time as they both also tried a new psu on it and that did not work either. I can't afford a New £800 pc as my Electric cooker has gone up spout and I need a new one. Plus I got a large DSLR lens on order.

Ok--DUMBO Me Bent half a dozen pins and broke one pin on cpu. So I said FUFF it and went off to Aldi's early this morning and bought their PC. FED UP now..:( :( :(
So I'm hopeing they will let me RMA the motherboard or I can buy a second hand cpu on ebay later.

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So I'm hopeing they will let me RMA the motherboard or I can buy a second hand cpu on ebay later.

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If you can't RMA the board, I have a 3200+ Athlon64 processor in my inventory I'll sell for good price plus mailing. Never used except for bench-testing two boards, probably 45 minutes' total use time. Had a customer who found out about dual-core and changed their mind about buying a Socket 754 system. PM me if interested.

Ah! I be in Wales UK & you be in Sunny Florida. The postage would be high I think.
THANK You for asking me.

Just to UPDATE you all.

I did order a second hand cpu AMD 3000+ off of eBay. £27 total. To get it to work I had to have just the graphics card conected and NO Ram. I heard bleeps for first time. Had to slot one RAM into second slot and it fired up. I then incerted the other Ram in first slot. ALL going OK. I now have THREE PC's that work. So All my IDE HDD in external cases will go back into the old K8N-E Deluxe. Have ordered 2 x 1Tb internals to slot into the plug n play caddys on my new PC. Will then use my USB Bridge Cable to join both my new one and my M2N-SLI Deluxe so I can Transfer my Photos between them both. New un will be used mostly for Photography and Video.
Thanks All for your Help.

Thanks for the update, glad you got the problem fixed.https://discussions.virtualdr.com/im.../2012/05/1.gif