When I try to reload windows on my new Hard drive it loads it and then wants to start the re- loading process again and again. When I format the drive I am seeing this.
305243mb Disk 0 at ID 0 on Bus 0 on Atapi (mbr)
Is that normal?
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When I try to reload windows on my new Hard drive it loads it and then wants to start the re- loading process again and again. When I format the drive I am seeing this.
305243mb Disk 0 at ID 0 on Bus 0 on Atapi (mbr)
Is that normal?
Last time that happened to me, I DBANed the drive with the default 3 passes and it installed OK after that.
http://www.dban.org/
Was that even on a brand new hard drive? I have loaded windows plenty of times in the past without a hitch but this is a first for me.
Could you provide specs like make/model of the drive and motherboard?
Is it SATA or IDE? If SATA, did you enable IDE compatibility mode?
You sometimes need to install the SATA drivers during Windows Setup, depending on the motherboard. You'll need to put the drivers on a floppy disk, then almost as soon as Setup starts, at the bottom you should see a message about installing SCSI drivers - press F6 at that point. Setup will then tell you when it wants the floppy, and after that it will see the drive and you can partition and format it.
It is a older HP computer and the hard drive is a Western Digital WD Caviar SE EIDE hard drive. The computer is a co-workers and he asked me if I could install the new drive that he bought and format it for him. Of course I said
"that is no problem" well I guess it is.
OK, in that case go into the BIOS Setup and see what that has to say about the drive in there. The reference to Atapi makes me think that the BIOS is confusing it with an optical drive.
It would also help more if you could give us more spec. than just "it's an older HP". Depending on how old the comuter is it may have a limit of Hard Drive size that you can use and you may have to Partition the drive.
I do agree with SuperSparks about it saying Atapi having to do with the Optical Drives.
I will get a better look at the PC tomorrow but I think it was a Pavillion 500. I also tryed to format a 60gb hard drive that I had laying around and it does the same thing.
I have had this happen on several HP machines. What I generally do is take the drive and install it in another machine, boot the machine and then go to MyComputer-> right click and choose manage. From there choose "Disk Management" and select the disk you need to format. Remove "ALL" partitions and create one logical drive. Format the drive, remove drive, put it in the other machine install Windows and you should be good to go.
The problem is in the master boot record, if I'm lazy I just throw in a Linux install and use the boot loader from Linux.
Don't forget to change BIOS so that the bad HD isn't the one to try and boot.
Raydee,
I had to look back on Windows XP instructions to make sure but seeing 305243mb Disk 0 at ID 0 on Bus 0 on Atapi (MBR) is normal. Your computer will restart and you will see instructions saying "Press any key to Boot from CD" at this time DON'T press any keys! I'm betting after you see this message your pressing a key to boot from the CD which will start the install all over again.
Anyway here is a link with step by step instructions on installing WinXP:
http://www.tek-tips.com/faqs.cfm?fid=3930
Double check jumpers on the HDDQuote:
Originally Posted by Raydee
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Check jumpers of other drive if HDD is sharing the IDE cable.
Bugspop1, I have left the computer alone after wiping the new hard drive, formatting the new partition and going through the whole setup process but after the computer restarts it automatically going into the setup all over again without me pressing any keys. I wonder if I remove the Windows CD after the setup process and let it sit at the black screen if it will eventually startup?
Shinma
I tried the jumper on the HDD on CS and Master, it is the only drive on the primary IDE cable.
This is a Western Digital drive and the only one on the cable, correct?
Remove the jumper altogether. For every WD drive I've ever owned, which is still what I use today, has the setting that there is no jumper needed when it's the only drive on the cable.
Double check the boot order in the BIOS Setup. It's just possible that it has been set to only boot from the optical drive and never the hard drive.
I tried to remove the jumper and its still not working. I will check the boot order next but I highly doubt that is it since it worked perfect before the hard drive change....who knows though, at this point I will try every suggestion.
Did you try getting the CD out of the CD drive before it rebooted. That's all it took when it happened to me. (Assuming you are set to boot from the HDD next in the boot order.)
Yes I did take the CD out of the drive after it loaded and before it rebooted. I do have to check the drive order though in the Bios.
Ok well I just checked the boot order and it says
Floppy Drive
HDD-NONE
So its not seeing a hard drive, maybe the IDE cable is bad? I hope the MB isn't the problem.
Those ribbons are easy to damage. Try another one.
tried the new ribbon cable, still the same.
Raydee,
I know that I had run into this problem once before but I can't remember for sure what I did to fix it. My doctors have me on a bunch of medications that screw with my memory, so please forgive me! I'll keep thinking about it and hopefully it will come to me.
Do you have more than 1 IDE Bus on your motherboard? If so try putting the Hard Drive onto IDE 2 instead of IDE 1. I'm thinking it was my brothers computer and it only had 1 IDE so we had to buy an IDE Card to fix the problem.
Thanks for the jolt.
Go into the BIOS and make sure both IDE channels are enabled. Some bios do list them in combination or separately.
If I'm looking at the right Pavillion 500 it looks like your Pavillion does have a Secondary IDE. As Train stated above, Go into the BIOS to make sure Both IDE are Enabled! Then use the Secondary IDE cable to set up your computer. I'm not sure if this will take care of the problem but we're running out of things to try.
Slave it to the cdrom.
But maybe, I have had it happen to me several times, the hdd is bad right out of the package.
If the hard drive and CD-ROM drive are both on the same ribbon cable, and you are using a Master/Slave setup, (versus Cable Select), the hard drive should be jumpered as Master and the CD-ROM drive as Slave.
A few questions:
- What model number is the new Western Digital Hard Drive?
- Are you trying to use an 80-wire or 40-wire ribbon cable? (Both have 40-pin connectors).
- Is the ribbon cable 'known-good', (tested and proven to work in a working system), or new?
- Are both the Hard Drive and CD-ROM Drive connected to the same ribbon cable?
- How do you have the Hard Drive jumpered, (Master, Slave or Cable Select)?
- How do you have the CD-ROM Drive jumpered, (Master, Slave or Cable Select)?
- If both drives are connected to the same ribbon cable, which drive is plugged in to the end/last connector, (furthest away from the motherboard connector)?
- Are all the connectors on the ribbon-cable keyed, (where they can only be plugged in one way)?
- Does the ribbon cable have a different color wire (usually red or blue stripe) along one edge?
Or if you have another PC to hand, slave the drive in that, just to eliminate the drive itself having died.