I'm not one to run over peoples beliefs usually. But this does not bode well afaic.
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I'm not one to run over peoples beliefs usually. But this does not bode well afaic.
Doesn't bother me in the least. No worse than Pat Brown calling Ronald Reagan a thespian in 1966, and it's being done BY liberals TO conservatives as well - look how Mitt Romney's being trashed by Newsweek and Time, and the Washington Post among numerous newspapers. For all the media hype about how polite people were to Jack Kennedy in 1960, the truth of the matter was that Kennedy was constantly on the defensive about his Catholicism - mostly from Stuart Symington and Lyndon Johnson, his fellow Democrats seeking the nomination that year. :rolleyes:
Look at it this way - when you notice a conservative hitting below the belt, it's newsworthy because it rarely happens. When a liberal does it, you expect it so it's not newsworthy when it (frequently) happens. Some of the dirtiest campaigning I ever saw was in King County, Washington, where conservatives don't even exist anymore. There, liberals eat their own.:D
Read the attachment and thought it was funny. It's typical mud slinging by politicians.
It would bother me for sure, but then it bothers me that anyone who might hold office in this country could be fanatically religious, regardless of the religion.
Yeah, the only entertaining part of a campaign. Lord knows the speeches are b o r i n g !!!:D (The sad part is that some people believe this junk....)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve R Jones
Y'all ought to lock me away for the next year. My two passions are politics and history.............:)
Here's what snopes says: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
By the way, I'll vote to lock up Lgbpop! ;) :D
Promises, promises........:)Quote:
By the way, I'll vote to lock up Lgbpop!
Yeah,,I received this from a friend by email. She has a habit of forwarding all sorts of weird things she usually gets from her "AOWell" friends. :rolleyes:
Just thought I'd see what feedback I'd get from you Guys. Guess I'm getting very well 'fed'?! :D
Thanks for the Snopes link GetaGrrrip!
You're welcome Ridgerunr - someone had sent it to me a while back ago, too.
Aww Lgbpop, we might miss you if you were locked up...
Hey GG, we might lockup lgbpop but unfortunately we can't shut him up.
Obama's family background bothers me. I will not judge him for his past but it does trouble me. I have never given any thought of voting him into the President's seat. Our sitting Pres. is doing a good job; I just can't figure out what he is doing that is good for our people, our country or the world. but then I don't think he knows either. :D
EDIT: Hope this post doesn't close the thread.
Keep it civil, amigo. Has anyone ever said the same about you in this forum? I think not.Quote:
Originally Posted by buf
That kind of "open-mindedness" speaks volumes about the people who subscribe to it. Please make sure it speaks positively, OK?
It's only my opinion of course, but I think government should be entirely nonsectarian.
10-4. But just wish all of life was positive; still doesn't keep us from trying to be positive.
I agree. The Second Amendment says it just right - the government will establish no religion, and the government will not prohibit the free exercise thereof. While the government should be non-sectarian, though, I hope those who make up the government have some sense of the Creator, just to keep them less prone to mischief.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
Ah, but therein lies the problem. So many only pay lip service to their supposed religions and in reality they follow little to none of the behavioral precepts set forth in that religion. I do believe that the best function religion can serve is to provide a moral blueprint for those that can't figure out on their own why they should behave in a certain way.
But I find it's far more common for religion to be used as nothing more than an emotional Band-Aid to calm the insecurity of the practitioner, or used as an ego maintenance trump card. After all, nothing trumps God.
So I'm not necessarily more convinced that a politician will not be malfeasant just because he has some religious leaning.
No problem at all. I couldn't care less if the individual is a saint or a sinner, as long as there's something that prevents that individual from being a tyrant or a Tantone.:rolleyes:
He's funny. He completely misses the point that he has no more concrete proof that the assertions he attacks are false, than the proponents of those assertions have that they aren't false.
He's what happens when human arrogance allows the fact that our perception, and every way of measuring anything ever devised by man, are in no way perfect or absolute, to be overlooked. Therefore anything they tell us must not be taken as perfect and absolute information.
I am happy to know that you and I (and I pray the majority of others) don't share your above view JP. I agree tho; nothing trumps God---including what ever you and I, and the world of people, think.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
You two seem to have a "head knocking" going on and so I will just read the words you choose to use and stay clear of this discussion. ( I hope to have learned my lessen to stay away from discussions about the above.)
Nah, I think JP and I are saying pretty much the same thing but from mutually different points of reference. Actually, it's difficult as h**l to be truly devout no matter what one's religion may be. It's been my experience that those who talk about it the most are almost as much the sinners as those who profess not to believe at all. The people who are at ease with their devotion are those - GENERALLY - who don't talk about it much if at all.
In case you're curious about what we're referring to, buf, check out this thread.:rolleyes:
Yeah I was going to say if there's head knocking going on, I missed it.
Guess my comment calmed you two down :)
I gotta tell ya that I wondered where the word "tantone" was used before; now I know!!
Look, it's those who think they know everything that know very little at all. Being able to speak, or take the liberty of speaking their mind without regard to other's feelings is what. additionally, freedom in the U.S. is all about. If you/they, don't believe in a Supreme Being then suppose "they" take their beliefs--or lack thereof--and move out. The Middle East calls. Leave those alone who don't and can't share your thoughts in this regard.
I never said I don't believe in a supreme being. It's religion I eschew. I still believe the government should be nondenominational and nonsectarian. Religion is not government's business. That's an individual's business.
JP/Lgbpop, I didn't intend for my post #21 to be an affront to either of you, and if it was, then I apologize. What I was trying to say was a generalized comment to all those who are living outside God's presence seem to be the ones to know how a Christian should conduct their lives.
Link to the other forum pretty well describes what I failed to describe.
We are NOT meant to judge other people!!!!
As sentient lifeforms I feel it's our duty to evaluate everything around us, including each other. Or as someone else put it better than I could "the unexamined life is not worth living".