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Hi every time I shut down my PC it takes almost 5 minuets from the moment I click “shut down” until it complete the process of shutting down. It is a bit annoying, how can I correct this and what might be the reason for such delay? I am using XP Pro with service pack 2
regards
Does it matter ?
Just click shudown and walk away and get on with something else.
In the mean time the PC will shut down and you will have spent 5 minutes doing something else with your time rather that watching your PC shut down.
hi Nix
thanks for your reply
yes it matters, 5 minuets is a long time for the shutdown process which means (at least for me) that something is not right and I dont like things which I feel are not correct.
regards
Try CCleaner
http://www.ccleaner.com/
Check for viruses and spyware
I ran CCleaner every alternate day and no spyware (I am using Microsoft AntiSpyware) also (Spybot - Search & Destroy) and no virus (Mcafee) all antivirus and Antispyware are up to date.
regards
Have you installed any software recently?One that came along with the problem?Maybe something is taking too long to shut down...
I believe that, after u press shut down the desktop dissapears immediately, but the systems halts in the next screen which says something like "saving your settings" right?
It could be a system service that takes too long as well
Hello ahmedalmatook :)
There are so many possible causes for this.
Here is a good troubleshooter.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php
gioannou is right. One of the reasons can be something not shutting down when it is supposed to. If shutdown hangs at “Saving Your Settings” this MS fix unloads your Profile to allow shutdown
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Another common cause is the Nvidia Driver Helper service
#98
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...d=1590&page=32
Elaine
Resources to help troubleshoot shutdown problems in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308029
Nix.. I can imagine that if you're installing new software that requires a reboot waiting that long would be extremely frustrating. :)
If you were restarting yes it would be annoying but for shuting down as stated...Quote:
Originally Posted by fink
ahmedalmatook have you ever made the registry change to clear you page file on shutdown.
I know I did that once and it caused about a 5 minute delay, maybe more.
If it was THAT easy he would just have to choose shut down instead of restart :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Nix
You might want to try this free program. I've been using it for many months and it hasn't caused any problems. I get consistant 3 to 4 second shut downs.
http://www.gold-software.com/download3774.html
Good luck
In order to restart a computer you have to shut it down first. It doesn't matter if it restarts after it's been ordered to shut down the process to close the PC is the same.
But he is shuting down.Quote:
Originally Posted by gioannou
The name of the thread is shut down takes a long time and then the first post only mentions shutting down, no restarting.
But we deviate.
Some of these apply to Win2K but the underlying process would be similar to XP and can be used for reference.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308417/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320423/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/182086/en-us
fink--your comment is absolutely correct--but--if you read his original post his problem is a long shutdown time. Maybe I'm missing something here (and that wouldn't be unusual).
I'm pointing out why a long shutdown time is a problem not to be ignored. Not just for shutting down but for rebooting as well.
I sort of in jest suggested that after hitting shutdown he just walk away.
Fink said that would not be good if he was trying to install new software and had to restart and thus wait five minutes.
I, being a smart ar$e said he wasn't restarting as he was shutting down and fink suggested that the same process is used during shutdown and restart to log you out of windows before either powering off or restarting.
I shall refrain from being a smart alec any more as it has confused everyone.
It's late, I should be asleep - maybe I am.
Btw for the articles that show how to set the resgistry to clear the pagefile, obviously set the value to 0 so it doesn't get cleared.
One way to find out what's hanging is to shut all your open programs before you try to boot down, then check if any of them still show in task manager. That could tell you what the problem is right there.
Adobe Acrobat pdf reader, particularly the latest version (7), is known to linger in the background even after it's closed and can cause shutdown problems.
gioannou
Have you installed any software recently
no not that I know of
I believe that, after u press shut down the desktop dissapears immediately,
no it stay for a long long time, and if i click on any Icon or retry to start any program i get an error massage telling me that (failed to start ...windows is shutting down)
dunedin
If shutdown hangs at “Saving Your Settings”
no it dose not hang here
fink
I can imagine that if you're installing new software that requires a reboot waiting that long would be extremely frustrating
you are absolutely correct on this one several times I had to pull the plug
Nix
have you ever made the registry change to clear you page file on shutdown
No I did not
JPnyc
One way to find out what's hanging is to shut all your open programs before you try to boot down, then check if any of them still show in task manager. That could tell you what the problem is right there
good one i will try it
every one thanks a lot
Ahmed
these are my running process
[IMG]http://i6.tinypic.com/16kqa8x.jpg[/IMG]
Ahmed
There seems to be a lot of unnecessary stuff running. I don`t know if they are the cause of your problem, but they won`t be helping.
A lot of them are optional, so it is up to you whether you keep them running permanently or not. The less the better. :)
Here is a sample, but I have not checked all of the entries.
jusched.exe Java suite and checks for Java updates DON’T NEED
CTDVDDET.exe Creative Soundblaster sound card drivers. It automatically detect and plays DVDs. This is a non-essential process. Disabling or enabling this is down to user preference
CTHELPER.exe Creative Labs Soundblaster Devices. It's purpose is to aid 3rd party developers create plugins/software for the card. In this way it is a non-essential system process and can be removed from the task-bar/startup.
Ymsgr_tray.exe Yahoo Instant Messenger application, an Internet messaging program. The process installs an easy access icon onto your tray bar and is often an autostarting process, which proceeds to initialize Yahoo Messenger. This is a non-essential process. Disabling or enabling this is down to user preference
wdfmgr.exe Microsoft Windows media player 10 and above. This process decreases compatibility problems whilst the product is in use. This program is non-essential process to the running of the system, but should not be terminated unless suspected to be causing problems.
ati2evxx.exe ATI Display Adapters and provides additional configuration options for these devices. This program is non-essential process to the running of the system, but should not be terminated unless suspected to be causing problems.
Also I am dismayed by the number of McAfee entries. :eek:
You can get rid of the ones you don`t want by unchecking them in msconfig.
Start/Run and type in
msconfig
OK
Startup Tab
Keep the page open then go to link below. It will tell you what all the entries are and whether you can disable them or not
http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html
Read the Key at foot of page, then click on "Here" at top. Use the Search box to check all your entries
Have a go and see if it helps.
Elaine
Elaine
Thanks a lot, that was real informative.. My sincere respects
Ahmed
My pleasure Ahmed
Go on, have a bash at msconfig and see what happens after that. :)
We`ll try to help you more if the problem persists.
Elaine
Ahmed
HAve you had a look in the Event Viewer?? (eventvwr.msc) - look there to see if there's any error's either on boot, or on shutdown.
I'd be willing to bet that one of your shutown problems is with the User hive of the registry. - if so, tehn try installing the MS tool that helps manage such problems - you may find that it'll help immensely.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
(and it almost certainly can't hurt!)
install it, shut down the system a couple of times, andthen have another look in event viewer - what programs are still listed there as causing problems at shutdown??
Elaine, I have trimmed down my process and cut down 10 of them, you can compare the process in the first photo I uploaded to the second photo that you can see bellow. And guess what? My current shutdown time is 18 Seconds only, thank you so much
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/im...2006/07/42.jpg
Thank you Noel for this information, I will give it a try also, but one thing to mention here that I had a look at the event viewer and yes there were several warnings and errors.... but I am not familiar with this section of Win XP so I have no clue on what dose it mean and what should I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoelMVP
Kind regards
Ahmed
Just make a list of the errors that occur between booting and shutting down, when that is all that you do in a session, first - post that in your response.
Hooray :D
That`s much more like it.
Elaine
Worth noting, Ahmed, is that not all errors or warnings in event viewer are important... in fact most can be ignored. But it's a good idea to have a look at them anyway just to make sure that nothing critical is being overlooked.
You'll also find that many of them are repeated each day or after each boot or after a specific program on the PC is used so you'd only need to check out one instance of the specific error to find out what it is.
At this point, however, since you've got your shutdown time down to a quarter of a minute, which is pretty normal, fixing any errors in the event viewer won't get it significantly faster if at all so checking event viewer now would be part of routine computer maintenance rather than fixing the problem any further.
thanks fink for the advice I will work on it at the week end
regards to all