please help me help Buddy...

Hi gang - Buddy's running 98fe on a pretty small system with just 32mb ram. 2 issues (maybe related?):

1 - Getting the following error regularly, and periodic freeze-up.
Tried reinstalling ie6 but nogo. Also, tried the reg fix as per THIS page and nogo too.
Thought about having him completely uninstall ie6, use IERADICATOR, then install ie5.5 sp2 (my ie personal preference) ans see if that takes care of the problem. Any ideas?

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EXPLORER caused an exception 6d007fH in module WEBCHECK.DLL at 015f:78b32599.
Registers:
EAX=0086fdbc CS=015f EIP=78b32599 EFLGS=00000246
EBX=00000000 SS=0167 ESP=0086fd84 EBP=0086fdb4
ECX=c1580a80 DS=0167 ESI=78b57700 FS=1ab7
EDX=815e0778 ES=0167 EDI=1a400000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 5d f8 e9 4f f0 ff ff 83 65 fc 00 8d 4d dc 51
Stack dump:
00860000 00000001 0086fe4c 00000024 78b57700 78b5a668 78b32330 00000001 78b57ec8 1a400000 00000000 0000007f 0086fdf0 78b32316 0086fd90 78b5a668
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2 - I'm wonderingabout his startup list. Please check out the attached startuplist including this autoexec.bat:

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@D:\MYUTIL~1\AVGANT~1\bootup.exe
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\BITWARE\;D:\MYUTIL~1\AVGANT~1
SET
PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\BITWARE\;%PATH%;C:\WINDOWS\Twain_32\Scanwiz
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TIA...

Hi ^dAvEy^...startups are clean. There's a BHO that I think is part of RealNetwork's "NetZip Download Demon" - NZDD.DLL - but that shouldn't be a problem. The Regedit error listed in the Startlist is also not a problem - Script Sentry is just doing its job.

What is Bitware, referenced in autoexec.bat?

I'd lose RamBooster (uncheck from msconfig) to see if it helps. I'm not a fan of these "booster" programs. Is the swap file set or managed by Windows? With AVG installed on D, it would seem like the system is low on disk space. Is this the case?

I can't comment on IERadicator as I have seen some horror stories. :rolleyes: Other than that, I know you do your research well and I haven't any more ideas. HTH anyway. :)

Thanks for dropping in and checking things out, HKEd :)

Wasn't sure how much to elaborate in my first post - sorry. The error and the odd looking startup were in place prior to my installing ScriptSentry, RamBooster and a few other utilities like SpyBot (which got right busy!) and ZoneAlarm all the other day.

Not certain about the Bitware in autoexec.bat but my hunch is it has something to do with fax modem software. Buddy tells me that although he's on cable, uses 56k modem and phone line for fax.

Nevertheless, I don't understand why it is listed in autoexec.bat. Also, I don't know what all this is doing in there either (sure isn't in mine!):
PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\BITWARE\;%PATH%;C:\WINDOWS\Twain_32\Scanwiz

swap files - I didn't check, but I'm betting big they're being managed by windows - I can't confirm right now...

I didn't check disk space, but should be good considering we replaced Norton with AVG and ScriptSentry for scripts all on D.

Scandisk comes up clean and Defrags straight through.

Have used IEradicator myself without problems, but am interested about probs people have had with it - I'll do a bit of poking around. Seams the error has to do with IE upgrades and incompatible versions of WEBCHECK.DLL. TBsaid, I think it has something to do with that Bitware and the dial-up fax...

several possibilities
http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/...RRWEBCHECK.DLL

Hiya wonderinguy34 - howz tricks over there?
Hope you and yours had a great one.
Thanks for digging in here...

Quote:

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Originally posted by wonderinguy34
several possibilities
http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/...RRWEBCHECK.DLL

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The error I've noted is only in THIS entry on that page - that's the one I"ve been working with.

Quote:

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PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\BITWARE\%PATH%;C:\WINDOWS\Twain_32\Scanwiz;

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Just dos paths. Really don't need them or autoexec.bat
unless you have some dos programs being started at bootup.
Bitware is old data/fax software.
Twain is/was a scanner or tape, etc. driver loading.
May try start/run/msconfig/ and uncheck process autoexec.bat
file.
I have 98Fe and no need for autoexec.bat or config.sys and
my stuff is ancient.
Good luck.:cool:

Nick is correct in that Twain is a scanner driver ands still used w/ the "newer " equipt. even if not a Twain scanner by name I would sugget not playing w/ it, at least from a personal experience point of view.

Good luck - Andrew

Quote:

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C:\BITWARE\;%PA

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this is a modem i have the same on my machine
Ahmed:rolleyes:

My main bud, john3:16, has a point, but after running
twain devices on my windows 98 machine, the OS handled them differently than older OS's..dos, win3.1, some win95.
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT are the bastard twins that handle driver loading, TSR initialization, memory configuration, and other menial tasks for real mode DOS--and for some legacy applications running on Win9x. Windows does everything it possibly can to ensure that you'll never actually need these files or their command line instructions, and unless you're hopelessly dependant upon a very old and quirky program, or addicted to a pre-1996 game, you probably don't.
Old stuff, maybe.
Newer like my HP PSC 750 4in1 print/scan/copy,scan....No.
But that's just my opinion. I'm usually wrong.
Good luck.:cool:

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Peace

REM it out. That way if things go flakey, Just remove the Rem.
The line stays put. and if not needed and things run right you do not need to mess with it further.

righto, Train and gang - thanks for all
So how's about if we have Billy (aka Buddy) put
REM<one space here before the line, Billy>
in front of each line except the AVG line in autoexec.bat?
I can give directions for that...
then he can see if the scanner and modem asre still fine...
if not, we can remove the REM?

So that could enhance overall windows performance, I spoze...
But now I wonder if that's got much to do with the error...

From what I've been reading, seams there's a problem with the IE6. I tried repairing it myself but that failed. I think I'd uninstall it and accept the option to revert to earlier version. I think there was a problem with the upgrade - comments please...

I have seen horrible problems with IE6.0 and IE6.0SP1 working on both Win 98 and Me. I have also seen numerous people with either version on the same OS and it runs flawlessly. No idea why this is so. My only two cents is to uninstall while in Safe Mode. I have my fingers crossed for you because when IE6.0 screws up it sometimes really screws up bad and won't uninstall.

Of course if it won't uninstall there is always format it'll remove pretty much anything.. nudge nudge wink wink.. a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse

>>I have seen horrible problems with IE6.0 and IE6.0SP1 working on both Win 98 and Me. I have also seen numerous people with either version on the same OS and it runs flawlessly. No idea why this is so.
- Ditto, Calpitor.

I'd prefer to see IE5.5 sp2 loaded, but I'm helping LD now, so for now I'm having Billy do a search for WEBCHECK.DLL to check for (multiple?) version(s). I'm thinking if an earlier version is in Windows/System AND IE6 version is on the PC somewhere else, maybe can use SFC to get things sorted? Seam logical?

I find it interesting I only have a copy of WEBCHECK.DLL in backups on MY system, but I did a barebones ie 5.5 sp2 install here...we might try just renaming the file sans the DLL extension too maybe?

REM<one space>whatever or
; This
Both work.

IE 6 and have had it happen with 5.5 also. You get a bad install and can not revert. or It can not repair.
Answer is to download and overinstall the same version.
MY 2¢ ;)

Actually, Train...
>> IE 6 and have had it happen with 5.5 ... can not revert. or It can not repair.
Is what happened when I tried, so then I did the...
>> download and overinstall the same version
and the problem persists!
I'm waiting on the webcheck.dll copies and versions info from Billy - will see what he's got there... :eek:

WEBCHECK.DLL
"Enables a client program to control the subscription manager for Internet Explorer."
By subscription manager they mean the "channels" which Internet Explorer sets up on your desktop and in your favorites when IE is first installed. WEBCHECK.DLL manages these.
Renaming tha file may help your cause.

You know, one has to admitt, with all the hardware and
software variations everyone has, it always amazes me
that M$ programs work as well as they do.
I may have the same setup as you and run smooth
while another crash and burn.
Good luck.:cool:

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Originally posted by ^dAvEy^
Actually, Train...
>> IE 6 and have had it happen with 5.5 ... can not revert. or It can not repair.
Is what happened when I tried, so then I did the...
>> download and overinstall the same version
and the problem persists!
I'm waiting on the webcheck.dll copies and versions info from Billy - will see what he's got there... :eek:

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ver 5.50.4807.2300 is one of them I have and matches the IE version number also. C:\windows\system

UHUH!
In other words, Train, since the webcheck.dll version in c:\windows\system should be matching the IE version installed, then Billy's problem may be as I suspected - here's what he has:

- He's running IE6

- webcheck.dll
Location C:\windows\system
Size: 348 kb
Version: 4.72.3110.0

- webcheck.dll
Location: C:\windows\vcm
Size: 252kb
Version: 6.00.2800.1106

Now I don't know anything about the VCM directory, but nevertheless, I'd use SFC to replace the version 4 webcheck in c:\windows\system with the correct one sitting in the windows\vcm directory - howz that sound?

- webcheck.dll
Location: C:\windows\vcm
Size: 252kb
Version: 6.00.2800.1106

Now I don't know anything about the VCM directory.

Sounds like IE 6 to me alright.

The vcm directory belongs to the version conflict manager ( atool most don't use but which can be found in the tools menu of msinfo32)

More on it - http://cwdixon.com/support/win98_sup...ersion_c_m.htm

Good find. Had forgotten that existed.

howdie IMM
hoping you enjoyed the holiday season and all is well....

I gave instructions for replacing the webcheck.dll version in windows\system with the Ver6 one in C:\windows\vcm...
something must have messed up through the process...
Now he has 3 copies but all are version 4...
I guess it might have been easier to have used the vcmanager for the replace...oh well...
Billy's reporting signs of spyware so have him running spybot and housecall...
then if he's into it, we'll dload 5.5 sp2, uninstall 6, and install 5.5 sp2.