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Operation 3 - 010
Well, we start another thread as the previous one was filled up or close to it. Still have to get four more items before I'm ready to build BT, the third in a series of Operation Delta Computers.
We have used the time given us to talk about a variety of subjects. Sarkazztic got quite a bit of work done on his equipment also.
Three or four of us are still working on the 32GB workaround issue of Compaq computers. We can't say the Bxxxx word either that is associated with this endeaver.
'Nuff said. Let's get to a question. When BT is built I will be putting in one or two network cards to tie my two computers together? Any card works or should we be aware of something that would or could cause an issue?
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I prefer 100 base networking as opposed to 10 base because of obviously quicker file transfers....I would stick to the names you know and love....dlink and linksys as well as netgear... I personally prefer the Linksys brand myself...I have not had any problems with any of these cards...I have also used Realtek cards with no problems....then new game machine has an on board sis lan that seems to work fine too considering it is onboard.
Guess what the NO PROJECTS thing went right out the window this morning...a girl I work with brought me a machine to fix....symptoms include but are not limited to a "drastic slowdown in program loading" Taking bets here....I have not looked at it at all other than the dust bunnies that seem to be overloading it but I am going with the harddrive being either completely full or darn close to it......will post back tonight and let you know what I find. I also have 2 people here at work that want me to build systems for them in the near future...good timing in finishing up my own systems I guess
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Hi goose
I am using D-link DFE-530TX PCI fast ethernet adaptor(s).
they are 10/100.
have used them to connect two machines with crossover. (worked like a charm, once I got it going.)
and I am using one for my cable access
remember steve-rey?
whe he wanted to do this kinda thing, we sure had a good thread on this subject.
(covering many "issues")
Later on, that thread helped me set it up for myself.
my first trial failed because I had faulty coax, but soon as I got crossover, I was up and running in the time it took to do a clean install. (I chose clean install since I had tried all slots, and several brands and types of cards with this bad coax, so there was a LOT of hardwayre mystery, erm, hystory on both machines, and I wiped it off.
it took about 50 minutes to do both machines, and I had a network.
the moral, get it right from the start, so you dont have to move the cards about, and you can easily do it without doing a clean install.
(it was my bad luck I had been given coax which was shorted inside.)
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had model number wrong.
Kind regards, Jaak
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Sarkazztic, on that first one why didn't you have them empty internet files, the cookie files, IE History, then scan disk, and Defrag. Had one like that last month. Did it over the phone. Talking about dust kitties etc., my wife got me a micro vaccuum cleaner with various attachments to clean inside a computer. Got all sort of nifty attachments and anti static near as I can tell. Had another person that tell me her monitor was black. No picture. I told her to plug it in. and it worked. Plumb amazing the number of simple things that can happen.
Three of you for sure like Linsky's so that's what I'll try. Train's got a Linsky router he brags on.
Jaak, I remember that thread (Steve-Rey) since I saved it on my old HD. I may have a hard copy in my stacks of paper somewhere.
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This person is pretty computer illiterate and they are not the kind of family that would spend alot if any time on the internet....she is a sales rep for our company (educational computer software) personal history and instincts are what I am going on in my pre-case cracking hypothesis of her problem...
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goose,
what are the 4 items you are still waiting on for BT?
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Audio card, network card, cdrom, and 3.5 floppy drive along with a tube of Arctic Circle, no that's wrong. Oh yeah Silver.
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Hi all..
Yep.....I'm still reading and cheering you all on!
Thought I'd mention that Train talked me into that Linksys router you're speaking of. (Actually he was down right persistent that I get the exact one! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ )
It actually installed so easily, I had to email Train back for assurance that I had done it right.
So.....again a huge thank you to Train. It was wonderful knowing I had somewhere to direct all my hate mail to if things were going to turn nasty. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Daizy
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Daizy
It is nice to be so well loved https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Your welcome. And see, not everything about computing is difficult. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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I too have the linksys befsr41 router and It was very simple to install and worth every ยข
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I don have nuffin thas linskys.
Daizy, I have been waiting for you to surface so I could tell a story on you.
People, Daizy helped me out tremendously on HTML "stuff" and I found phzzzz through her. (Not a beer Bistro) But in talking to her she allowed that she didn't know enough to get into hardware. But she gets ahold of Train and goes for it. And naturally I was kept abreast of the progress. But not by her. Guess she wanted to surprize us.
By her actions and hers alone she has become a full fledged "Delta Crew" member. Of course the usual perks and benifits are extended to her. There is one thing not allowed of course and that is "lurking". https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Congratulations Daizy, you are talking the talk and walking the walk. Proud of you - knew you could do it. Three beers for Daizy. That's not right. Cheers beers hmmmmmm. Stick with the beers. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Thinking about picking up a NIC card myself...then I'll have an excuse (for the wife) to build another system. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
GG1: What heatsink/fan did you get and are you going to put in a front intake/exhaust? (Or just keep the system outside this winter?)
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Bistro, 80mm cooler master unless you recommend someting beeter I don't know about. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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That'll do it. And if you get tired of it, you can always sell it as a used helicopter prop... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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If noise bothers you I would not even consider the vantec cck6035-d this is the loudest thing I have ever heard. even with the case all closed up you hear this loud roar....I have gotten used to it but its not for the faint at heart
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Fans....we don't need no stinking fans. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Just drop that baby into the cooler next to the cold beers and she'll be fine. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Question:
My uncle has acquired a couple old computers. There is a logo on them with a small-case letter "e" surrounded by a larger letter "C". Both letters are in dark blue. In "my computer" properties, the thing calls itself Computerease. Anybody know where I can get some info on these critters? My searches only turn up software sites. One is a tower and the other is a flat desktop. They are old...they still have those 5.25 inch floppy drives installed on them. Thanks https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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I think that if ya go putting the puter in the cooler with the beers you might end up with some blue screens or hangs....certainly will cause some crashes...unless you are putting micro-brews in there....great taste less filling something like that....
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Thanks so much for the words of encouragement.
I chose Train for the hand holding with the linksys.... as his pennance for talking over my head! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ He didn't tell me he was tattling at how deep the chasm of ineptitude in Canada was though! lol
As for the html thingy Goose.... you know that was sincerely my pleasure. Phzzz (not a beer bistro https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ ) is in my opinion, just one of the best and ought to be acknowledged for it.
sarrkazztic...I'm anxious to hear what you find when you crack the case of that computer.....and what you do with it once you do....please keep posting.
Maxx....I too am looking around to see what I can find on your uncle's computer...but I keep running into "computerease" as a software package. Still looking though.
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Goose,
I hope your parts get there soon. Waiting for your stuff to arrive has forced me to place some orders of my own (might as well use you as an excuse).
As for the networking... I also have no particular preference in terms of brands. The ones mentioned (Linksys, Dlink, Netgear, etc) are all fine. I'm another one who tends to often go with Linksys, but for no real solid reason. If you are just going to network two computers with no plans for expansion then going the two cards and a crossover cable route will be dirt cheap. If you plan on networking more than two systems (now or in the future) consider gettting one of the 10/100 autosensing switch packages (comes with 2 cards and a 5 (or more) port switch (switch is better than hub). They're pretty cheap. Of course if you have or will have cable/dsl then a router is in your future.
Alas, this is future stuff though. First will come BT. Tomorrow will come the world.
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Maxx,
The only thing I could dig up is that the website is www.c-ease.com. Unfortunately it seems that site is no longer around.
I'm not sure but I think E-machines bought them out because they had the kind of high tech 5.25 inch floppies that they were looking for. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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DrMDJ,
Thanks for trying. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Emachine wants nothing to do with 5.25 inch floppy drives. They are busy working on their new project...something called 8-track tape. Should be quite the breakthrough. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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So far I have found dust bunnies the size of small farm animals...and clues to the whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa inside this computer....oh what is this....the warren commission was a coverup....gee what you can find in someones computer....Seriously I have found 4 different copies of AOL software so far....here is the kicker when I booted the machine for the first time...norton liveupdate comes up and says you have not updated your virus definitions in 497 days do you want to run liveupdate now and they wonder why the machines dont work right
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Cool! Wait three more days and make it an even 500. Then when you run Live Update on it, Norton will come back with a message: "Did you enjoy your extended vacation in Europe?".
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https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ sarrkazztic:
Don't you just love it?! I usually encounter those numbers when I look in friend's last scandisk and defrag! Drives me nuts! My second peeve is trying to explain that critical updates are exactly what they say......kinda/sorta necessary https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ And third is looking down at the systray and seeing it right full.
I do love getting my hands on someone else's machine though!
Daizy
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I have never seen this before....I am trying to format this disk I am going to do a fresh install of win98se for them and it is trying to recover lost allocation unit....then it says "an intenal stack overflow has caused this sessoin to be halted change the stacks setting in your config.sys file and then try again. This happened with a win98 boot disk and also a system disk I made from a dos prompt
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If you can, not want to lose stuff though, try fdisk wipe partitions and start over.
EDIT: Does not sound to good about the HDD.
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i put a network card in it and backed everything up to my hard drive then took the drive out of the machine and put it in mine and formatted it in there then put it back into the machine I am working on then loaded win98se....all is well so far...I will load some more programs for her tonight and then test all day thursday and return it to her on friday **question** when you guys work on a machine for others do you allow yourself an extra day just for testing? I always do. I would rather have it crap out on me than send it back to the customer and have some error show up then. I also do all the required windows updates while I have the machine hooked up to my network not just for speed sake but really to make sure they get done.
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Good Morning All,
God willing and the creek don't rise I will start building BT the evening of October 26th. The problems at work have not gotten any better and as a result I have to work this weekend some and the following weekend maybe. All I'm going to say is the upgrade is not compatible with what we do. As a result we are working by hand and workarounds. This situation is intolerable to say the least and time consuming.
DrMDJ, Whatcha ordering? Since I'm your excuse you can tell me.
Daizy, you can go along and feel you're not learning much but in actuality you are. Happened to me also. Told Train I didn't think I was getting anywhere one time and he proved me wrong in my thinking right quick. And when you work with hardware you learn about everything. The people around you know their business and have you noticed how they continually learn new things. It goes on for a lifetime. Great, isn't it? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Well, I guess I'll tie the two computers together the cheap way with cards and a cable for now and then when I build another computer, I'll worry about networking then.
I'll use Linsky's equipment. Seems from our straw pole it is the favorite. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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This is amazing!!! The Master predicted this way back in 1256 PC!!!!
And in the latter parts of a Fall month, a Green One shall rise and buildeth a system like none he had before. He shall sweat beads of labor and stress, but shall come forth rejoicing in his glory, for his system shall truly be speedy and bring him much joy. His countenance shall be changed; his computing shall increase in the land. He shall honk his pride to all when he is done and his old system shall be nothing but a memory.
--from The Dubious Prediction; Chapter 57, The Lost Annals of Bistro
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Goose, what is the likelyhood that you will get cable internet access in the future? Just curious....I see in your parts list that you have ordered a dial up modem.. I tried to look through all the Delta Threads to see what your latest and greatest updated list of components was I either ran out of patience looking or could not find anything after you changed from the intel to the amd could you please post again your parts list.Now that I am not so wrapped up in my own projects I have more time to read up on things.
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Purrty much what I do.
Question:
Cpu is a PII 550 when set to 550 and 100 bus acts like the ram is bad, but runs like a dream at 533 with 66 bus. Left it there. Temps never exceeded 32C. Curious now, but they are happy.
Documents, cpu and on screen info match PII 550.
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He is in the way out back. cable/dsl arrival date 10 - 20 years, maybe. 50 probably closer https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Sarkazztic, nothing but a 56 modem in the forseeable future. Checked a week ago on that.
The list off the top of my head is this:
1. Inwin S500 case
2. 1.1 T-bird with upgraded AMD fan and heat sink.
3. ASUS A7V Mobo (has five PCI slots).
4. 2 40GB Western Digital Hard drives.
5. Maxtor Ultra PCI board.
6. Cooler Master Fan (front of case)
7. Sound Blaster Live audio card
8. 3.5 Floppy Drive
9. CDROM
10. Modem card
11. 17" monitor
12. Boze speakers
13. Keyboard
14. Ram (256) two sticks
15. Microphone
16. Network cards and cable
The CD-RW Drive will come later.
Don't think I missed anything. Did I?
Can't wait to get this built either, because I want to Ghost between the two computers. Another thing is to see if I can recover data off my old hard drive with the info DrMDJ supplied me. And with two computers, I will finally be able to check out various procedures, tests etc. we come up with at the same time I am in contact with ya'all. The way I have been doing it is not very efficient. Still haven't run all of Jaak's "stuff" he posted. And I will finally be in a position to have good backups.
The master foretold this. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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[This message has been edited by greengoose1 (edited 10-10-2001).]
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ONE HUMAN posted this elsewhere.
Here's a couple of other ways to get into Safe Mode.
Option 1. - Go to the Start button, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS mode. Once in DOS, at the command prompt, type "win /d:m" without the quotes, but with the space after "win". This will automatically load Windows in Safe Mode.
Option 2. - Go to Start, Run, type MSCONFIG, and click OK. On the General tab click the Advanced button. Put a check beside 'Enable Startup Menu' and click OK to close all boxes. Restart your computer. In the DOS Startup Menu select '3. Safe Mode' from the options. Don't forget to go back later and remove the check you added in MSCONFIG, so that your computer doesn't always begin with the Startup Menu.
Kinda like the extra options.
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Train.....I am having a hard time finding any info on a pii 550....the highest I have been able to find is a 450mhz that ran at a 100mhz bus speed. all the 550's I am seeing are piii's....anyway that is very weird. If it werent for the on screen display saying pii 550 I would say it was one of those misprinted cpus that we have all read about.
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About what I was thinking also. About had us bouncing off the wall.
Everything was matching so nicely too.
Thanks for the verification.
ME, I think it is a Celeron 533 someone got to. To late for warranty type stuff.
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Celeron 533 would make perfect sense....specially with the 66mhz fsb. Is there not a 9x multiplier on the board to try running at 594mhz instead of 533? or is 8x the max?
**I just remembered something I read a while back....at one time they were going to call the flip chip Celerons CeleronII I wonder if they didn't just code that one PII instead of CII**
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**I just remembered something I read a while back....at one time they were going to call the flip chip Celerons CeleronII I wonder if they didn't just code that one PII instead of CII**
Makes cents to me and Recall something about that, now that you mention it.
Backed it down because of stablity. Do not remember. It was 3rd when He took it home, saying we are now leaving it alone. Did not do to bad rendering 3D and playing music at same time. Figured that would mess it up, but it didn't. Actually did better on the music than it did before when it was running solo.
Temp probes all showed acceptable temps. It was stable and they were happy with it.
He is now talking about a 1GB AMD. Think a project is in the making.
But, he is not getting my empty [new] S500 case! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Train take a look at this on your situation earlier
My Celeron2 566 MHz (Socket 370) shows as PIII-556 and I don't know what the CPU core voltage is. How can I get the new BIOS to recognise my correct CPU type?
A: This is the case on many of FIC's earlier Slot 1 products, as listed below:
KB-6120, KB-6130, KBI-6130, KL-6011, KLI-6130, KN-6010, KN-6000, VB-601,VB-601-Z VL-601, VL-603, KA-6100, KA-6130, KB-6130-V, KBI-6130-V, VB-601-V.
Users must refer to our CPU table for each model's CPU support range. http://www.fic.com.tw/techsupport/mo...ents/index.htm
read the whole article here fic faq
I know this is not exactly what you are looking for but at least it is close to documenting what you found
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Very close indeed. Had a nice read. seems there were a few released at that.
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