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Operation Delta 3 - 009
Operation Delta 3 - 009 begins. We are in the middle of working with Compaq computers and their BOMID and sarkazztic is running somes tests on his computer. This is taking up the time while waiting on all the components for BT, an Operation Delta computer, to come in.
For all the Delta crew, please remember, I have never had DOS so when you say to do something I probably don't know the mechanics of procedure. I sorta like need it spelled out as in Step 1, Step 2 etc. That is why it takes me longer to go through say Jaak's suggestions. I do not key something unless I know why. I learned that the hard way. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Operation Delta - 3 - 008 http://discussions.virtualdr.com/For...ML/005351.html
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Honestly, at this point I'd be tossing Compaq and that *&$# BOMID off the highest point over the Grand Canyon right about now...Would have to wait a while, but the sound of it hitting bottom would be quite pleasant.
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unconfusiuorisation where did I put that dictionary...
sarrkazztic
You probably lost it in the barnyard over at Boardman. They only have 7000 milking cows.
ummm Train did I do something to irritate you? I have not been to boardman in a couple years...and those cows promised they would not tell...
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You seen that UPS man today Goose? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Lesser...hmmm alright, bistro... I'll accept that. Just thought I might be needin' to "upgrade".
I'm fixing to practice my hernial grimmace, sarrkazztic.
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The darn cows where on tv this morning, even showing off their carosel. Blabbermouth reporter.
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I dont even want to know what a herial grimmace is......Howdy Queen O Hearts....I seen some pictures of your sweet machine...over on a case mods site....very nice litte window......by the way I read the specs of the machine very nice and a fine job you did on your first one....have you done any upgrading to I believe it was your sisters machine....angel of mercy or something like that...Give us an update since we are somewhat celebrating your success and anticipating Goose's success as well......Here is my nightly update....the Celeron machine is running very nice after I flashed the bios with the latest version...still no go on the ultra66 card but I called promise and they said it was an oem card and only designed to work in 1 certain machine....glad the vendor I bought if from told me that... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ <gotta love the smiley that is named after me> any way I only paid 15.00 for the card with shipping so the world is not going to end but I could have used that money to buy a better hsf for the Celeron machine....I would not trade the farm or the cows for the vantec hsf that I have on the Athlon and as for that machine it is the nicest machine that I have built to date....I love it...still havent convinced the wife to let me cut any holes in that antec case for a blowhole or a windows...and dont think she will ever give in since she paid for the case... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ I have to get some games on the celeron machine so I can play.....where did I put that MYST cd......and if you say one more word about those cows in boardman.....
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Queen_of_Hearts
He found evidence a ups person had been there. 98SE upgrade. And a little help to get it installed. Some programs, that sort of thing. In a goodies box no less https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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No upgrades on Texas Angels machine. She's really anxious... but NSF. You musta read the Original Delta threads. I still get a kick when I look back thru them for some twick or tweak. It was a blast building this machine, thanks to these guys.
No problems with this one at all. Praying goose is just a fortunate.
Gettin' close goose. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ I'm watching.
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Somebody say MYST........... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
MYST 3 ought to be listed as a low level virus at Symantec. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
You guys realize how much money and aggravation that thing has cost me?
***maxx rips out what's left of his hair***
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2 computers at least wasn't Maxx?
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I can't talk about it...sniff...it's just too painful. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
And the damn thing still doesn't work...that's the real kick in the head. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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I am reading the original deltas Queenie...I am up to about 21 or 22 I think....been side tracked with building and testing and pulliing hair out in the last few weeks...wish I had never heard the words promise + ultra66 + PROPRIETARY = pain in my mobo.
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Hi Train and Maxx ! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
PROPRIETARY ! Ohhh ! careful using that kind of language, sarrkazztic....you'll get edited ! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Queenie you have to quit talking in italics I get all excited
See what I mean it took me 3 times to get that right.
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sneak back in there one more time and erase all those"this message has been edited by"'s and there'll be only one...nobody'll ever know... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Well I was going to post this directly in the forum but I decided to do it here I just installed an iomega atapi zip100 drive in the athlon machine....I had downloaded the latest via drivers last week or so....I did not download that new via zip patch or any of Iomegas drivers.....everything is working fine so far <knock on head> I even played a couple mp3 files that I had copied to the zip disks way back when I had a parallel port zip drive.....I gave it away because it was so slow.....this new internal one is alot faster it played the audio without any hesitation at all just like a cdrom.....can I expect evil things to happen if I do not download that patch or Iomega drivers???? We shall call it another test in the name of computer science.....I really didnt think I would become the guinnea pig....but so far 30 days have not past and I have 2 very nice new computers here in front of me....I have to say I am a very proud owner...already thinking about upgrading the celeron tho...as I said in previous posts...payday may see a 700mhz chip in that board yet....and not too far in the future the 933 piii.......that old slot A athlon 750 is startin to get a little nervous I think....maybe it will overclock itself to keep me from puttin it on the auction blocks... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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sarrkazztic,
It is certainly possible to run the zip using windows default drivers. However, I have just always found it best to load the basic iomega drivers (from iomegaware). Not the "fluff" stuff, just the drivers.
As for the via patches/workarounds... Under certain circumstances (certain boards, settings, etc, etc) they might be needed. Obviously some people are having problems at times. But honestly, I've run in to no issues to date. As such I have yet to go through those contortions listed on the via site for a zip. I just use the 4-in-1s (up to date) with no other manipulations.
I think this is another one of those problems like with the SBLives. I know people have had problems with it, but I have rarely run across the problem, and when I have it has been easily overcome. Just lucky I guess.
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sarrkazztic,
I regard to your Ultra66... Since it seems all but worthless otherwise, why not try flashing it with a FastTrak66 bios and see if it works. Maybe that was one of those modified cards I mentioned earlier. If it is you might have yourself a $15 Raid controller.
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Ditto to DrMDJ's post. Have the same Zip on my system (VIA chipset)--works better with the Iomega software; however, after installing, go back into msconfig, Startup Cop, whatever-you-use and uncheck all the "extra" 4 or 5 startup files it puts in there. Unnecessary. other than that, no problems at all with ZIP or SB Live!.
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Hi folks.
Train, yes, I remember that thread.
matter of fact, I have just put the new information you and the other guys provided in a txt, which will probably make it into "butter booter" and maybe I put a copy in the "what are these partitions for?" thread (where you pointed to).
right now it's kinda all over, and it's just too good info to NOT wanna put it together..
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GG1,
I read you consider to get a 30 giga disk for the compaq.
I also read you are not too good in DOS.
two MAJOR tips on DOS
dir shows the content of the folder you are in
(the word comes from directory tree.
a branch is called a folder in windows
you are in the root of the tree is when you are not in a branch.
to get to root of a drive, type
CD\
(that's one without space)
CD means change directory.
you can do
CD windows\command
to have all the present dos utils available
the second tip
one can use /? after a command
example
dir /?
when you do DIR, you do NOT see all the available commands
you only see the available files.
things like COPY, DIR, MD, CD, UNLOCK, are INTERNAL commands.
in the old days (dos6.x) one could get a helpscreen with all the DOS commands by typing HELP.
when I explain a series of commands, I put them in separate lines.
I don't like to waste my time by typing <enter>
I do that only when it's a real newbie, and then I rather not have them do things in DOS.
(when I think there is no other/better way to to it right)
anyway, ther are good sites on the DOS version in win98.
this one is good http://www3.sympatico.ca/rhwatson/dos7/
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hi,
the only issue I ever had with zip 100 was when I installed iomegaware tools.
(since I had it together with a scsi card/drives, it played a letter dance and behaved like a scsi even when it is an atapi.)
I never needed the iomega tools, so I never re-installed them.
at the moment, the ZIPdrive is not in use in any machine. (I will not hook it up until I really need it. It's one of the things I wanna have in my hardware arsenal, but on reflection, I never made regular use of it).
the problem seems to be with one specific VIA chipset?
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Good Morning All, Seems like I missed a nice evening last night with you all. When I got home last night, had three members of the family with high grade temperatures, one of the commodes was plugged up with paper and water flooded bathroom (4yr old told me she did it and the floor was wet and she was sorry), the compressor went out in a new central AC unit, wife had to work 11 hours, my emails were overflowing, had to make supper and computer needed to be scandisked and defragged, and it all Murf's fault 'cause he installed a full version of Murphy's Law when he became moderator.
Jaak, thanks for the info on DOS.
As Train said, I got a Goody Box from him with BT's operating system and other interesting items to numerous to mention. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Gee, it was good to see you posting QoH. I'm getting closer all the time. This bunch has sure helped us haven't they. It will be a year this month. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Maxx, I'll take Myst off your hands if you want. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
DrMDJ and Sarkazztic, Going to keep going on this Bxxxx (Can't say the word 'cause of Bistro, the Grand Canyon, and my Compaq) thing. I believe it can be done. Of course I've been wrong before. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Just so you all know. My time is at a premium right now with the problems at work and the demands on my time at home. Got a funeral for one of my wife's uncles this Fri. or Sat. Then we'll even out again - I hope.
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When it comes to 4 year-olds, it's tradition to have at least a couple of bathroom disasters....it's their job. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Goose I thought the only derogatory term that looked like Bxxxx was bistro
just kidding oh great master just getting a little shot off in retaliation for the cows in boardman comment.....
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https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Sarkazztic - Brilliant - Absolutely Brilliant https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
The Master is in trouble? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Thanks guys, I needed a chuckle But this...... ROFLMxO
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GG!: You have to be very careful with that BOMID. If you happen to rexxxxx, then fill in the command inxxxx, without grxxxxx, making sure the pixxxxis placed in the sxxxx correctly, you could die.
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Bistro, Thought that was bromo seltzer. Hmmmm. Confusternation again. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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let it be noted that arthur dent moved around in a bistro.
they saved the usiverse, and never got a meal.
hey, pull the fish out your ear, and i stop making sense.
LOL
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Jaak.....regarding your last post...and a few previous ones I suggest you check out the follwing site Solutions
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Congratulations on one year Goose. And here I only thought it had been 6 months since you started building BT. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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hi,
it wasn't lithium.
they saved it with a wicket.
I wonder if nobody here ever read Douglas Adams' hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.
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Anyone ever done this?
Vernon Frazee
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From:Lat26N/Lon80W
Registered: Feb 2000
posted 10-04-2001 09:47 PM
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Here's the way I would probably approach it:
Be sure you have a Windows 98 boot disk that recognizes your CD-ROM drive. (If you don't have one, you can download a program to create one from bootdisk.com).
Power down.
Jumper the 3.2 GB as Master (with Slave) and hook it up to the Primary IDE connector on the motherboard.
Jumper the 1.0 GB as Slave and hook it up to the same ribbon cable as the 3.2 GB. (Note: Make sure you have the striped edge of the cable going to Pin 1 on both hard drives and the motherboard connector).
Boot up from your Windows 98 boot disk.
Run FDISK, (answering Yes to "enable large disk support"), and create a single, full-size partition. (Also make sure that this partition is marked as Active).
Do a FORMAT C: /S to format the partition.
Do the following command to copy everything from your 1.0 GB drive D: to your 3.2 GB drive C:
xcopy d:\*.* c: /r/i/c/h/k/e/y/s
Remove the Windows 98 boot disk from A: and boot from the 3.2 GB drive C:.
After you're sure everything is working properly on C:, run FDISK, (enable large disk support? Yes), to Delete and then Recreate the partition on the 1.0 GB. Then do a FORMAT D: to prepare it to accept files.
You're now ready to attempt your upgrade to Windows 98SE.
Of course he is answering a post, But it is interestingly cheap.
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Odd...I understood jaak perfectly concerning the remark about Auther Dent....
Has it actually been one year, GG1? Can't be. Yikes!
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To long, to long, to long. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Got the kids in bed finally. I did purty good for a grand dad.
Yep, DrMDJ, been waiting quite a spell and I'm savoring every part of it. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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well would somebody explain it for those who dont understand????? Arthur Dent???? must be before my time.....Arther Kent I remember....the Scud Stud from Operation Desert Storm.... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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jaak
what are these partitions for?" thread is the perfect place for that info. You have the letter I posted there already. Then it can be found using google. How I got the reminder of that thread. Yes, I found it there. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Hi,
this method with xcopy...
some swear by it, some swear at it.
it does copy all files over.
and this method Vernon posted was valid, since this guy wanted to run an upgrade to win8SE over the old disk.
so, in normal systems, (where no hidden partition with bomid is needed) it can be done.
it may even run from the moment you boot from the copy.
one can (IMHO, one should) copy the setup files and cabinets into a folder on hard disk where one will have access to, no matter what happens.
Thus, one could run a "repair" setup over the files that were copied over.
(pretty much like the upgrade this member wanted do.)
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now, with this BOMID and the 32 size issue on GG1's machine, I still think it should work if he first disconnects his current systemdrive.
and then set up the machine (the BOMID and recovery system) on this as yet unused new 40 giga hard, connected on the PCI controller.
this way, the BOMID would get on the new disk.
if my thinking is right, the setup files are then put in options...
he could copy them to a folder closer to root
like C:\win98
and after this, gg1 may be able to connect the old systemdrive to secondary port on mobo, boot to windows to chech what is being booted.
(he may be up in the old system, but with luck, is in the new system...)
Then, booting to a dosprompt, check with
DIR C: /w /o /p
xcopy the stuff over to the other hard drive.
I would not do it from within windows.
and, personally, once the BOMID is on the new disk, I would use ghost to copy partition to partition, AFTER a DIR check
its harder to explain than to do.
but, one must at least doublecheck so as to see which drive holds the old system and data files.
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