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Having read some of the earlier posts, I dont know what all the fuss is about re MS releasing SP1. Yes those of us with DSL will download it quicker(!) than dial up users but come the end of the month, here in the UK at least -every PC magazine on the news stands will have SP1 on their "cover discs". So it will be freely available to all in eith CD Rom or DVD format.
Tony P
The updates have run great, and I feel that anyone who has Xp, either on a new machine or clean upgrade will benefit from it. As far as Alexa, there was no spyware after upgrade.
Madc250:)
Uninstalled XPSP1 due to many problems with it and did reinstall of IE6SP1 - immediately on reboot Adwatch nailed Alexa and traced directly to the SP1 install.
MS can stick XPSP1 where the sun don't shine! If it ain't broke - don't fix it. OR if you can't put out a non buggy OS - what makes you think you can put out a service pack that's not buggy, too.
XPSP1 screwed two separate XP machines at this household.
My congrats to those that are having no problems - but come back and repeat that sentiment in a few weeks.
Hey Wino,
You were rite. I looked with ad-ware again, and there was Alexa. Did not see it first time!! Cool move glad I checked again.
Thanks Madc250:D
I have yet to hear of software more complex than Hello, World that did not have bugs. It is virtually impossible to write perfect software, and it becomes increasingly harder when it is so complex as an OS. Just because the service pack may introduce new bugs, it does not mean that it is not better to apply it. You just have to weigh the benefits. That said, waiting until the SP has been tested by others is still a good idea. The bad thing about MS SP's is that they try to do so much at once, and that everything is interconnected, so if one thing breaks, who knows what else will.Quote:
MS can stick XPSP1 where the sun don't shine! If it ain't broke - don't fix it. OR if you can't put out a non buggy OS - what makes you think you can put out a service pack that's not buggy, too.
I had a friend contact me about a message that the winxp sp1 would not install because he has an illegal copy of winxp pro. He had someone other then me install it for him and he is at a loss on what he should do. He is afraid that he will lose everything and he says he did not know that the install was illegal:confused
tironsi,
Do not disagree with your comments. My bone of contention is that an SP1 should improve the operational characteristics of XP, not make it more problematic. In my case, had a work-around for my Visioneer scanner 5300USB that worked in XP, but was prevented from working in SP1 - just not worth the $$$ to go buy another scanner IMHO, and functional programs in XP becoming unfunctionable w/SP1 - since other than some security patches (already downloaded from update) there isn't much to celebrate about in SP1 - and I'll be willing to bet good money that patches to repair SP1 patches will flood the MS update site. IE6 SP1 can be dld. separately - so far now will pass on the SP1 - when I have no choice, will bite the bullet - but not happily.
bojovan,
IMHO, your friend isn't missing anything. If he can still access the Win Update site, shouldn't be a problem. The SP1 isn't an essential download at this time and he would be better served to wait awhile before worrying about it.
Rwinegar.Quote:
Originally posted by rwinegar
Sorry Tjolly. I don't buy that.
I had to reformat my HD 5 weeks ago. When I installed windows updates there were about 30. Service Pack 1 contains an awful lot more than 30 updates. If I was so current, why did it take 15 minutes to install the new SP 1 files?
I found a list of upgrades and fixes applied by SP1. It runs from Q82010 to Q32545. It includes 308 upgrades and fixes and prints on 13 pages. You never applied that many patches/fixes.
If you do not want to update your machine, that is your business. But, do not spread false information that might encourage other users to hide their head in the sand next to yours.
Firstly Iam not spreading false information. What I have said is the reply and is the exact copy of the email I recieved from Microsoft.
Secondly I don't hide my head in the sand.
We're here to share information and experiences not to attack others for what they have said.
How do you know how many patches/fixes have been applied? I have just examined my downloads and it is a lot and I'm sure that if I printed the lot it would run into considerable pages. However, I'm not prepared to do that just to prove a point.
I find what you have said about me is insulting and annoying.
Thank you Brily.Quote:
Originally posted by Brily
rwinegar, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed or what? ;) I'm not sure what you mean by TJolly spreading false info.....
Speaking of changes done by SP1, am I hallucinating this, or is it no longer possible to minimize the Task Manager to the system tray so that it shows CPU usage there?
Must be a hallucination. It seems to be minimized (scratching the monitor to be sure it's not a Task Manager decal) and showing the usage here.
For TJolly and his allies, here is a list of fixes/patches applied by SP1. It is more than the sum of the previous updates. Anyone who has installed every windows update will still benefit by installing the service pack.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...SP1FixList.asp
The Elder Geek: I must have screwed something up then, cause I don't see it anymore. It used to show that icon in the tray even when it wasn't minimized (I think)...oh well, not going to miss it much
thanks
For the benefit of my fellow countrymen without broadband, apparently the CD can be ordered free of charge from Microsoft Connections on 0870 601 0100. See article here:
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/review/2/2/1931.html
bojovan,
Apparently your friend has a pirated copy of XP. Microsoft is aware of several pirated CD keys, and SP1 will not install on those systems. Your friend will not lose any data.