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hmmmmm....I see there are some questions about price of CPU's and RAM. Remember, if the item is no longer being manufactured, (ie. 16Mb 72 pin EDO RAM) then its price will increase! Resellers must pay higher prices for dwindling supplies. They end up passing the price increases on to consumers. This may be the case for Celeron CPU's. Most of them were in the 500 to 600MHz range.
greengoose1:
You asked earlier about my recommendation for an OS. For the most part I agree with Bistro. But a big dilemma is looming in the future!
Win95 and Win98 first edition are no longer supported by Microsoft. Win98SE is currently supported but, with the introduction of WIN ME it may only be supported for about a year or so and, NT 4.0 is being phased due to the introduction of Win 2000. That effectively leaves the various flavors of Linux. Unfortunately, Linux is for geeks. Its an awesome OS to play with, but at this time its far too complicated for the average user.
So, where does that leave us? With Win98 SE or WIN ME. After looking at WIN ME, I found no compelling reason to upgrade.
Having dual booted 98SE and NT4.0, I found that I ran into trouble finding NT4.0 drivers for some of my hardware and ended up using WIN98 SE about 98% of the time. So, my recommendation is just to run WIN98SE, until Microsoft finally delivers its "Whisper" or "Micropuke" OS sometime in the future. Of course, you can dual boot with NT 4.0 if you really plan on bringing your work home.
Morning All, The gnomes have been busy once again. Information is flooding the delta. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Break out the lifejackets! Fill dem sandbags!
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Gotta go to work---have 4 stations to stare at all day---will keep this site on one and check in from time to time.
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Brighteyed and bushy tailed!
I'm going to window shop today. Got my list in my pocket.
Just looking......and drooling https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
I have asked several questions regarding the relationship of components and how they work together. This has helped the understanding of the data flow (1's and 0's). This then can help a person troubleshoot a problem more effectively. Then the other side of the coin is using the capabilities of the hard ware and software to obtain the desired results. By thinking along these lines will keep confusion from slowing things down in the mind.
It is important to realize that many different levels of expertize exist with the members of VirDr and this is why any one who reads this and has a comment or a suggestion or a question, should not be afraid to jump in.
One thing that we would like to hear is your personal thoughts on the componets that are talked about that you are using. Is it good or bad and why. This can save money also for others.
Note: As these people on this thread have helped others so you can probably too. Everyone have a great day. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
HELLO! HELLO! Hello!...
IS ANYBODY HERE? HERE? Here?
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[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 12-08-2000).]
What type of VOM would be good for the workbench or is a continuity checker all that is needed?
Not a soul.
AHA! Lurking in the shadows, eh greengoose1?
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Sounds like you're wanting to get into some real serious computer work there. (VOM and continuity checker are one and the same actually). It's really not necessary for building a computer; but can come in handy
for serious troubleshooting.
Hey, was just reading a review on cases and it sparked my memory on a detail about power supplies. Make sure the ps is "ATX 2.01 compliant" (most new ones are, but if it's store-bought, it might be old stock). Afew years ago, someone came up with the "brilliant" idea to have ATX ps's draw air IN the case, cooling the ps while exhausting onto the CPU chip to keep IT cooler also---called it ATX 2 Standard. Turned out to be a BAAAAAD idea. Not only drew dust into the case, but the warmer air really didn't do so much to cool the system down---just circulated warm air inside the case. So out came ATX 2.01 versions---draws warm air OUT of the case that still cools the ps. (Lots of folks were just getting into their ps's and reversing the fan(s)---those sneaky devils...).
So check carefully those cases (or if buying the ps separately)--make sure the ad/box indicates ATX 2.01 compliance.
[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 12-08-2000).]
You are right. I should have explained. The continuity checker I meant has two leads and a neon bulb. Use on AC, cars, etc. Sorry
Glad you rememered on PS.
Oh, don't be sorry. Legit question. Some "build-it" sites mention using voltimeters, etc. for checking the parts as you build--usually written by knowledgable techs who, in my opinion, "forget" the majority of their audience are non-technical and "just wanna build it"; not do high-tech surgery on it https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
"Scalpel"...."clamp"..."clamp"..."voltimeter"..."anti-static sponge"....**!..."I'm sorry, Mrs. Johnson, but the vid card was a bleeder...couldn't save it...could we use some of the chips for transplants?"
All the tools you'll need are what's already mentioned. If later on, you get real serious about PC TroubleShooting, there's books and courses galore that will teach you the electronics side of the house.
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ (I'm not "scolding" you here https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ nor trying to discourage you. If you're interested, by all means pursue it).
You notice the echos in here? Oh well. be back in a bit.