Since I can't edit my post (not sure why that was taken) I'll write a new one. If I gave the impression that I was blaming anyone here, namely JP, then please accept my sincerest apologies. Nothing of what I said was meant to put the blame on him, and I never felt like he was the one to make the decision. The work that he is doing for the forum is much appreciated by one and all!
I think the problem that a lot of poeple had previously was they had to scroll down 1.5 pages before they got to a thread because of all the ads and banner at the top of the page.
That has now been minimised by placement at the side but this the results in a reduction of page width by 1/3 to 1/2 depending on resolution and is actually more annoying.
And since now usually only the first post fits on a screen as soon as you scroll down to read pas the first post the ad is not visible anyway :) so it makes you wonder what use it is :confused:
I meant to say that the placement of the ads is a JM decision, sorry I wasn't very clear.
Are you saying that you can't edit your posts at all Usil? If so I'll get that looked into.
yeah, I don't have a reply button, quote or edit button.
Usil, what browser, ad blockers, and/or firewalls? They're present for everyone else, so far. Can you post a screenshot?
In FF if you go Tools > Options > Web Features and uncheck Load Images, the pictures disappear, but it is erplace by text.
Incidentally this also gets rid of the ad and thus the whitespace LOL
Darn it came back again :(
JP another curiousity...right now I'm in IE and the post is all across the page....but on this same page (same time) in FFox the right column still exists and to get the right column out of the way in FFox I have increased the text size which pushes it aside.
could be my configs in each.....but I don't have a clue as to what?
Well they have fundamentally different rendering engines. I don't expect them to render exactly the same.
Thanks, didn't know that...:)
Just noticed that if you view someones profile it no longer shows you the last thread they posted to and the date.
That was kind of hany to find out if someone had been here lately or not ??
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/mem...p?userid=44944
usil and DrMDJ: I'm with you. I won't be here much longer if it stays this way.
Add that it is not just the squashed width, but that the ads are different widths and the width of the forum content keeps changing. Sorry, this is just too jarring and unpleasant.
It's annoying for sure, but enough to make you leave the boards ??
I notice that another popular site doesn't have this problem
http://cybertechhelp.com/forums/index.php
http://forums.techguy.org/
incidentally the last site had 1272 active users on board 131 members and the rest guests.
In fact neither of them appear to have advertising ?
Just thought I'd say that as much as I like these boards, I WILL leave if that right column doesn't go away.
Yes, it's THAT annoying. I won't be back until it's gone. There are other places that I can read far more easily.
Not all at once, or in any kind of snit, or as a form of retaliation, no.Quote:
It's annoying for sure, but enough to make you leave the boards ??
What happened with the other forum that did a similar format is that I found it so jarring that I visited the forum less and less and eventually dropped out altogether. Took maybe a month or six weeks.
I'm not egotistical enough to think that my threatening to leave would constitute any real threat to this forum.
I'm not trying to make any threats or anything either... I'd leave becuase I can't read anything without going crazy.
I'm sorry, but quite frankly, whoever came up with that design... well, I can't say anything nice, so carry on :p
Nix, I cannot speak for http://forums.techguy.org/ but I can tell you that http://cybertechhelp.com/forums/index.php is privately owned by a guy who really cares about helping people.
I asked him once why he spent his own money to keep the site online and I was humbled by David's reply. "I believe in information trading for the greater good. Meaning that those with knowledge in an area pass it on to another so that they in turn help someone else. All for free."
I fixed it. I hadn't realised that I did it myself. Through desperation in trying to get rid of the advertisement on the top right, I added VDr to Adblock on FF to see if it would work. Unfortunately, it did not work, and I completely forgot that I had done it. You reminded me JP, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPNYC
Nix, is it enough to leave the boards? Well, not in a fit of rage, but eventually, yes. I don't know how to explain it. It just gives an uncomfortable feeling all the time. You know the feeling when you leave the house and you have that terrible feeling that you forgot something important but can't remember what, and its driving you nuts? Thats the feeling I have here. Its lingering in the back of my mind all the time. I am not upset at someone specific, so I am not storming out. But I know that I won't be able to tolerate this. Thats just me, maybe I am screwed up.
Gosh, usil, I dunno what to say. Any one else like to comment on the da vinci code ? (if you like, you can post the dead sea scrolls usil :D )Quote:
Nix, is it enough to leave the boards? Well, not in in an instance on madness, but eventually, yes. I don't know how to explain it. It just gives an uncomfortable feeling all the time. You know the feeling when you left the house and you have that terrible feeling that you forgot something important but can't remember what, and its driving you nuts? Thats the feeling I have here. Its lingering in the back of my mind all the time. I am not upset at someone specific, so I am not storming out. But I know that I won't be able to tolerate this. Thats just me, maybe I am screwed up.
Before this gets taken as support for the new layout ;) I liked the ad at the top better.
That said, if we must have the ad on the right column, can we at least get narrow ads only? discussions.hardwarecentral.com has the side column ad, but it's always one of the really narrow ones. It's bearable at 800x600 and hardly noticeable at 1024x768. I could live with that far more easily than with the fat ads on the side.
*sigh*
Ooops, sorry TuttleQuote:
That said, if we must have the ad on the right column, can we at least get narrow ads only? discussions.hardwarecentral.com has the side column ad, but it's always one of the really narrow ones. It's bearable at 800x600 and hardly noticeable at 1024x768. I could live with that far more easily than with the fat ads on the side.
AnnMarie, I haven't read the Da Vinci Code, so I have no idea what you ar talking about. Care to explain?
Ok on the main index page besides the Servers forum, the last post was by BJ saying it's not a postable forum etc.
If however you follow the jump feature to get to that forum it doesn't even display that thread and says nothing has been posted in the last 30 days so you can't even see BJs thread ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Big John
The only way to see it is by clicking on it from the index page.
Also did an email get sent out to members who haven't posted in a while I've seen an increase in members who registered 2 to 3 years ago suddenly posting again.
Maybe they found us via a search engine again ??
Fixed, thanks Nix for pointing that out. ;) BJ
Edit: No the e-mailing has not been done yet.
Strange maybe I'll have to ask some of them why they have suddenly posted after such a break away.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG JOHN
Ok I went to view the profile of our latest member http://discussions.virtualdr.com/member.php?u=74534 and clicked on the link to see the 4 posts but it came back and said there where none ???
I then noticed that their status is Temporary Suspension.
Banning new members so quickly, they must have done something bad eh ?
I reported that member for spamming. He spammed 4 forums with free computers and other such crap.
Excellent our new found presence in the search engines brings the evil spammers too.
I guess (in some cases) we have to take the good with the bad.
A recent member not related to me http://discussions.virtualdr.com/member.php?u=74531
Photolady's soulmate http://discussions.virtualdr.com/member.php?u=74462
From a personal standpoint (which means squat I know)... I hope those that have said they are unhappy enough with some of the current new board issues that they would consider leaving will at least allow a bit of time to maybe getting things corrected. I think it's fair to say this change-over did not go as smoothly as would have been hoped for. Now there are issues that need to be sorted out (or decisions made on-high as to whether they will be sorted or or not), and that looks to be something that is gonna take a bit of time unfortunately.
It's certainly reasonable though that people would be inclined to leave beacuse of dislikes in the new board. After all, it was said/speculated before the upgrade that deficiencies in the old software were perhaps keeping or driving people away. So it only stands to reason that the knife would cut both ways.
I have to throw in my 2 cents here too. I emphatically support a return to the advert on the top instead of the side. To me, the side ad just disrupts the fundamental flow of web browsing. We're always scrolling up and down, so it (to me) is not a big deal to scroll down a ways to get to the posts). But like others have said, having the info squished to the left is way too annoying.
Why is it so challenging to simply move the advert back on top? It seems from reading this long thread that just about everyone prefers that.
The complaints are being looked at & have been brought to the attention of the higher ups at JM. If everyone would exercise a little patience we may come up with a solution that would make everyone happy again. BJ
I for one am not going to rush into leaving until I know what the outcome will be. As I've said earlier, I will not leave in a sudden fit of rage, but probably more gradually. I do hope though that JM will come to their senses and change the one thing that most people get upset about.
Power to the people :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG JOHN
:( Will be glad when you work out this blank space problem. At work using a junky old computer on the workbench, all I could do is increase the IE text size to "Largest" and that drove the blank space off the screen.
Only problem now is other techs looking over my shoulder and asking if I am blind or if I need new safety glasses.
:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by BIG JOHN
Ok....they've got 10 minutes. If it isn't resolved by then, I'm outta here and will go back to moderating at my favorite help site "Looney Lucy's Advice for the Unloved and Forlorn" (I moderate the "I'm Ugly and Have to Wear Safety Glasses" forum).