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That heat sink is probably glued to the processor by thermal glue. There is one way; but very risky. You run as many intensive programs as possible for a while without the CPU fan running. Then take an oven mitt and remove the processor, then take a butter knife and slowly pry the heat sink off. The other way is to freeze the processor/heat sink, then do the same. Either way, you risk fracturing. Better just to live with it. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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You have to be very careful with this, But sometimes you can [after you put the heatsink back on] Is to start it up and let it warm up for a minute or two. Then shut it down disconnect everything and then see if it will come loose. Heat will some times loosen up the glue/abhesive/paste that is holding there. Sometimes this works.
I think that if you are digging in there already, you can do it https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Build one that is.
What's wrong with the heatsink you have now ?
If the fan quit, it can be replaced.
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I've heard the Pro's and Con's on this subject before.
So Bistro, in your opinion does the Heat Sink need to be replaced? Is there any side effects of leaving it there?
Also, just for the lukers that may be wondering. What is the best Kind of Heat Sink to get (what brand)???
Sry folks, but I have to replace the fan, its virtually holding on by a thread, dirty and fixin to fall off. (I am a smoker) The clips were defective in the 1st place, but I found out too late. My hub is a retired Navy master electrician, and he says to wrap, a tie-wrap around the whole thing and forgetaboutit???? What does he know, he works on 50 ft cranes, welding machines, power poles and stuff.
I also can upgrade my processor very easily,but need the heat sink working . I am also having system probs, (CD-RW messed up and uninstalled right now, think its overheating big time) Am trying to get 1st things 1st and systematically, and slowly upgrade till I can find a system I can live with/afford.
Will copy the suggestions and ask him to take the processor/and plate off, so if he messes up, he will have to get me a new one, lol...besides, I have a fear of all that electrical stuff.
I mainly wondered if disconnecting the processor would require any special consideration when putting it back on.
Thanks for the replies, appreciate it.
kat
Better to just leave it on unless you are prepared to replace the CPU.
Lots of good heatsink/CPU fans out there.
Some samples HERE. Now, these are fancy ones--good for higher-end chips and/or overclocking. For your chip, you may not need to go this far. A good one inch heat sink with a fan may be all you need.
Some CPU fans blow away from the heat sink; other blow onto the heat sink. The latter seems to be more effective in my experience.
When reinstalling, just make sure everything lines up correctly.
Just be careful of static as it can kill pc components.
I used canned air to keep the dust out of my computers.
Might want to look real close at that fan housing as I have found where screws have worked out and All I did was replace them.
Just a idea. People replace fans by them selves also.
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You are better off just upgrading the processor (check to see if your motherboard supports the upgrade one first) and getting a fan/heat sink to fit. Getting the processor out is quite easy. It should be sitting on a ZIF socket (Zero Insertion Force). UNPLUG the system first, remove the side panel, touch the inside chassis (to discharge any static you've picked up), then go in there. There's a little lever on the side of the ZIF socket that's held in place by a plastic clip. Just push down on on the lever and swing it slightly over to disengage from the clip. swing the lever back as far as it will go, then gently lift out the chip.
To replace the chip, just do the reverse. Look at the hole pattern on the socket; you'll notice one of the corners is different than the rest (corner is "cut off")--just match the pin pattern on the new chip to the socket. Lower the chip carefully down onto the socket, matching pin for hole. Make sure it's flat against the socket. Then lower the lever and clip it in place (there'll be some resistance--that's OK). Attach the heat sink.fan, plug the fan into the connector on the mobo or power supply.
Voila. Fin.
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Here is what I found re: processor upgrade. I really dont understand all of it so, Bistro, all , if you have a chance to glance at it , maybe you could give me some advice.
There is also a section that says I can overclock? What do yall think?
Thanks, k
http://home.earthlink.net/~billselk/...slockets2.html
Well...that's a heck of a lot of pain and tribulation to go through just for an upgrade. Strike One. You also mentioned you want Win 2K--the article says it's not compatible with the Celerons. Strike Two.
I'm telling you that you are better off to save up for a new system. Strike Three https://discussions.virtualdr.com/.
I need to sign off and get some ZZZZ's...(the crowd cheers....) Nite All...
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I agree Bistro, but thanks so much for your help. This system was nothing but trouble from the start, and will be glad to be rid of it. Am still gonna try to get the heat sink working properly. and all that advice was great thanks e-body. Nite,
kat
Good Morning All, Had to get off the computer last night early as my better half and daughter "needed" to use it. With emphasis on "needed". That meant I had to go to back up communications so I called Train and he kept me up to date. Am I addicted to this "stuff"? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
katsatxlady, In reading the comments made about your computer, I observed a couple of things that you could do. Use this computer for communications and build a computer, then could use this one for back up. From reading the comments made and the questions you asked, I believe you could do this. "What the mind can conceive so can you achieve".
Reading last nights posts and the other threads in the Hardware Forum , I realized some more potential exists in the forum. We had said previously that we could not help more than one person build a computer at one time. This just is not true. A thread could be started for each computer being built by a member. That member could then go at his/her own pace with the appropriate help. The Weekly Subject and other hardware questions would continue as they are. Think about the possibilities to help others that exist in this scenario. Maybe we ought to start a different thread on this to explore it more if you all think the idea is something that we ought to do.
Ok, now back to cooling. We have not really discussed all the actual causes of the heat and why we have to do the things we do to cool our computers. Please list the components and parts of individual components that cause heat and a simple why. Knowing what and why helps to understand the cooling process more.
Later - time to run a little.
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Been 'thumbing' through the posts here and find much interesting reading. One thing that caught my eye was a comment made by jtdoom and the st...st...stuttering sound.
Currant machine has 433 Celeron (upgradeable to 500) and I just increased RAM from 96MB to 256MB. Every so often this thing st...st...stutters. So I really do need to get it cooler.
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A good example of a system possibly overheating:
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/im.../2001/06/1.jpg
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Not really. This is a good shot of a "smoke test" (no components in there by the way--just the fans). System is set up for a slight positive pressure--slightly more air going in than what's being exhausted. Smoke is being fed through the front (red box is the smoke generator) into a 120mm front intake fan--a big honker. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Notice the smoke coming out where the CD-ROMs, etc will be. That's good--air flow to those devices. In this example, you see "air" coming out of the side panel vents--IMHO I would tape those up on the inside; more air flow kept inside the case. Emphasis is on the hottest parts: CPU, vid card and mobo. Followed by hard drives, other drives, sound card, modem and power supply (which also exhausts).
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kataxlady,
don't know what type of heatsink you have there, but in most cases, the fan can be removed and replaced without getting the heatsink off.
(in this message I talk about the heatsink and mean that cooling plate with fins...)
(you need acrobat reader) http://support.intel.com/support/processors/manuals/
I selected one of those for the pics in it
ftp://download.intel.com/support/pro.../fcpgaman1.pdf
in the latter manual you see they use a fine blade screwdriver as a lever
some clips are different.
a tip I recently posted was about modifying the tip of a blunt old reasonably broad blade screwdriver, where I advised to put a file to the tip to make a rectangular indenture in it.
that was so you won't slip off the clip that easily
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