Election Predictions

As I mentioned....I voted democrat this election to purge my own party of some elements I didn't like....mainly the extreme right as I am a moderate republican... :cool:

However....democrats shouldn't get too excited....even if they grab the senate too. Take for example what happens in the House now. Dems get to build the committees and chair them....but guess what? House chairs are generally awarded based on seniority. That means that many extreme elements of the democratic party (ultra-liberals) will once again be in the spotlight after having been burried by the Democratic party leadership as the country started to lean to the right in the mid to late 90's.

This means that the Dems may be facing a similar problem with keeping fringe elements under control....and could easily find themselves facing the same backlash in two years. The names you are seeing now...Pelosi, Waxman, Rangle are heavy liberals and will likely take this election as a mandate to push agendas that may be more extreme than America is ready for. Also....many of the ultra-liberals will want to have investigations, hearings, etc. to investigate Bush. If the American people see either a witch hunt or a vindictive attempt by Dems to get revenge....they will guarantee the White House goes to the Reps again in two years. Any investigations will need to be precise and quick....not constantly growing monsters similar to what happened with Kenneth Starr and the Clinton stuff.

The Dems ran a good campaign....but they ran on the premise of being anti-republican rather than pro-democrat. It was effective, but it doesn't have the stamina after the fact that a pro campaign would have had. "Throw the bums out" campaigns back-fire all the time.....especially if the old bums are just replaced with new ones.

The old saying...be careful what you wish for............applies. The Dems need to be very careful....their mandate may not be as sweeping as they think. The voters are expecting results....not months of investigations or retribution....and "throw the bums out" voters tend to be impatient.

Anyway....that's my political wrap-up commentary...... :D

Israeli commentators seem to be worried about the Democrats. They worry that the Democrats won't do anything about the Iranian Suicide Nuclear Bomb. They worry that the US won't get into another war in the Mid East. And if they won't, we may all one day go KABOOM!

Maxx, you made some good points there. That's what I hated about this campaign season. I can say that I really could not clearly determine the political platform of just about every candidate...on both sides. They were so bent on lashing out at their opponents that they didn't make their own politics clear. When the mud finally clears, I've got a sneaky suspicion that a majority of these people who gained office (because the people wanted "change") are going to be a great disappointment.

You make some good points Maxx. I'd add that many Republicans got lost in a way--they wanted approval so badly from the media and avoided criticism so much that they forgot what got them to Washington. Those Republicans who stuck to their principles either won, or lost in very close races for the most part; the "lost lambs" got whacked. The few Rockefeller Republicans left fared very poorly. My brother in Woonsocket RI told me last week that if he was going to get Democratic results he might as well vote for the Democrat (he was highly put off by Mr. Chafee and voted for Mr. Whitehouse). I couldn't blame him.

One thing bothers me: the Democrats were so successful just by being "not Republican" that they didn't have to make many promises and uttered generalities for the most part. They don't have too much in the way of expectations to live up to, or live down as a result. Ms. Pelosi (and possibly Mr. Reid also) will have their hands full keeping tight rein on their memberships.

Is it too early to coin a new phrase.............?

"Crazy Pelosi".................... :D

Sorry....I couldn't resist...... :p

I like mine better: Bela Pelosi. :D

Maybe.............. :D

http://www.omnimaxx.com/graphics/bela.jpg

ROTFL I wasn't thinking of a resemblance, just the mannerisms and the demeanor. That's great!

SOUNDS LIKE CONCILIATORY ACCEPTANCES OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPS TO ME.
I RATHER SUSPECT, AS SHOULD YOU AND OTHERS, THAT CHANGE WAS NEEDED AND WANTED BY ALL PEOPLE WITHOUT REGARD TO PARTY AFFILIATION.

Any investigations will need to be precise and quick....not constantly growing monsters similar to what happened with Kenneth Starr and the Clinton stuff.

THERE AREN'T ANY SHORT LIVED INVESTIGATIONS BY EITHER PARTY. I BELIEVE AN INVESTIGATION "HERE" AND "THERE" NEEDS TO BE HAD BUT ONLY AFTER THE MORE URGENT ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED AND HOPEFULLY RESOLVED. DON'T FORGET IT WAS THE REPS WHO CALLED FOR THE STARR AND CLINTON INVESTIGATIONS!!!!

SOME POSTS ARE BEGINNING TO INDICATE A LOSER'S ATTITUDE WHERE THE WINNERS SHOULD BE CONGRATULATED AND NOW SUPPORTED BY ALL IN BOTH HOUSES.
SOME OF THESE WORDS WERE SPOKEN BY BUSH IN NOV 04 AFTER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS WERE OVER; WORDS THAT HAVE SINCE SHOWN THE ACTIONS OF BUSH IN ALL OF HIS 6 YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOT JUST SINCE 04: (just further showed his arrogance and being hard headed):


I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush said.
I'll reach out to everyone who shares our goals," said Bush, who 24 hours earlier had promised to try to win over those who voted for his Democratic opponent.

Bush has also said: "When you win, there is a feeling that the people have spoken and embraced your point of view, and that's what I intend to tell the Congress.
TRY TO REMEMBER THE SHORT PARA JUST ABOVE!!


BTW, I have used caps just for emphasis ONLY. No yelling.

usil, are you sure there aren't some Republicans in your government ;)

I can hear a drum roll as Rummy slithers away......

http://www.sideshow.connectfree.co.uk/RUMSFELD.jpg

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Originally Posted by buf

SOME POSTS ARE BEGINNING TO INDICATE A LOSER'S ATTITUDE WHERE THE WINNERS SHOULD BE CONGRATULATED AND NOW SUPPORTED BY ALL IN BOTH HOUSES.

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Whoa....back the truck up there fella...... :eek:

You use the word "posts"....so I assume you are talking about this thread....

You may recall I am one of the people that voted on the side of the winning party in this case, so I don't see where the "loser's attitude" thing is coming from.... ;)

However....think again if you feel I should give Dem leaders a pass after all the garbage I took for the past 6 years or so. I had people blaming rainy days on Republicans (and me for being one) and heard every anti-Bush or anti-Republican joke that they could muster. Am I going to have some fun at Democratic leaders expense now that they also hold power?

Well......ummm....hell yeah!.

When it comes to political humor....I took it, so I plan to dish it out too. I don't see anything wrong or unfair about that. :confused:

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SOUNDS LIKE CONCILIATORY ACCEPTANCES OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPS TO ME.
I RATHER SUSPECT, AS SHOULD YOU AND OTHERS, THAT CHANGE WAS NEEDED AND WANTED BY ALL PEOPLE WITHOUT REGARD TO PARTY AFFILIATION.

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It's called being gracious. We're not sore losers.

Your suspicion is mistaken, I'm afraid; the elections are done but by no means was change wanted or needed by "all people." Not the kind of changes that are in store for us, at least. My taxes will go up 15-20% like they did in the Clinton years--so much for saving some money for my retirement. :( We'll boldly retreat from confronting an enemy sworn to destroy us as well. This used to be the haven for individualists, where anyone could succeed with enough hard work and perseverence; it's slowly becoming a smothering nanny state where someone's always got their hand in my pocket once I earn anything just to give it away to others. Equality of opportunity is giving way to enforced equality; all diversity is welcomed unless it's diversity of thought.

You call that progress? Toward what?

To get back to the original posting in this thread.....lets see how we did as forum on our guesses.... ;)

Republicans keep both the House and the Senate ..........3
Democrats take both the House and the Senate ............11
Republicans lose the House but keep the Senate ............6
Republicans lose the Senate but keep the House ............0

I have the second choice in bold for two reasons....one it is the highest vote getter....and also based on most if not all the things I have seen regarding the last senate race in Virginia...the likely the result overall. The democrat will likely win even if there is recount.

So....as a forum....we did pretty good in our predictions. However....I have a federal judge looking into a few of those late votes in that choice category that came in after the polls closed last night. ;) :p

BTW....it should be noted that the Dems do not have a true "majority" in the Senate even with Virginia. There are two independants in the Senate that are included with the Dems since they have proclaimed they will "caucus" with the Democrats (sound dirty doesn't it)...but at any point, these independants can balk and there goes the majority. Joe Lieberman (who I like) is sitting pretty right now. The Dems abandoned him and tried to pull essentially a political assassination of his carreer....but he fought back and won. He holds alot of power now as a swing voter in the Senate...and my guess is that he will be looking for a few of the dems leadership and requesting a butt-kissing...in exchange for his support....LOL :D

According to exit poll data....more Republicans voted for Joe than Democrats.....

Joe isn't likely to forget that fact.....so watch for surprises..... ;)

Maxx, this was part of your post numbered 38:
I've been a life-long Republican....but I always split my ticket in general elections. Never voted straight party in my life. This year's split favored democrats....

Not because I have changed any of my core beliefs...but rather I want to send a few elements of my party packing since I think they are hurting it for the long run. In short....I look at it as using democrats to do some housekeeping in my party.
My take on the above:
I have to remark that you have a weird sense of loyalty--to either party! Terrible reason to vote in my opinion. But you are entitled to cast your vote. Independent registration may be in order!!

And continuing on in the same post #38 you posted this:
However....and I am serious about this.....is there something psychologically wrong with Nancy Pelosi? I watched some of her performances during the Katrina aftermath...and she seemed somewhat unbalanced. It remined me of seeing someone on medication that was late on the dosage....because later on she would be lucid and calm.

You read the Rush Limbaugh take on Michael J Fox--- well, didn't you?
Well, Ms. Claire McCaskill won MO. :D