Anyone else having Firefox crash issues here?

From the article:

....We spoke with Mozilla's Mike Schroepfer, Vice President, Engineering and Chris Beard, Vice President, Products. Although both Mozilla executives were attentive and interested in our findings, they did not appear to be fazed by the problems we reported to them. "We have more than 10 million downloads of Firefox 1.5, and the overwhelming feedback we've received from people downloading has been positive," said Schroepfer. (Iin other words, you're in the minority, and it's your fault. Don't you feel singularly stupid? You runnin' a Commodore 64, right?) "We have heard some reports [of high memory use], and we're working through them now in hopes of a successful resolution. It's our goal to make Firefox users happy."(And if you're lucky, we'll give it a passing thought. First priority is that we have to do something that breaks all your extensions and themes. At least weekly ).

What a pantload.

One of the mainstays of posts concerning FF on sites like VDr is the issue of RAM usage and CPU spikes, no matter the version.

Reading the response from that moron, I'm not surprised in the least over the zombie culture at the MoZzine forums. It's always user error or the fault of the OS or your computer, blah blah. If you dare to confront the adolescent know-it-all cheerleaders, their "mods" will obliterate your comments.

It took them almost a year to fix a major bug where when you uninstalled FF, it took out the whole Program Files folder for many.

They're still having issues with losing bookmarks, but of course changing the Options box took first priority. :rolleyes:

I liked FF at first, (started with 0.8), but didn't know any better at the time. I only use FF because of the adblocker and Crashblocker. I no longer recommend Mozilla to just anyone, and especially won't mention their 'help" forum. I personally don't think they really know what they're doing, and there's too many hands stirring the soup. They are not ready for Prime Time, and likely will never be, considering the mindless remarks of Schroepfer.

I knew once an "open source" program came into popularity that things like this would be exposed. People love to bash MS and all that occasionally goes wrong with their programs, but they discount the TREMENDOUSLY wide usage of these programs, worldwide. Now look, an open source program has gained just a fraction of that level of popularity, and the problems, bugs, and vulnerabilities are starting to flood out.

Bottom line is, all programs are flawed and all have vulnerabilities, but you NEVER know how many there are until you reach a certain level of users. That's the only reliable way to expose such issues.

To me it's so ironic that the Mozilla response sounds like it came fresh out of a Redmond can. :)

It's human nature to go after the "big guys", but as the competition begins to even approach the same level of popularity, the apparent differences will begin to shrink.

When I first hit this issue I posted on the Mozillazine forums and someone eventually came back and asked me if I had talkback installed.

I didn't and asked if there was some way of installing post existing installation, but they never came back to me.

You should be able to find previous versions. I can't believe they don't have em archived somewhere for DL.

Here's the FTP site for the older versions.

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/

Keep in mind that it's going to get tougher as time goes on to find extensions and themes for each version, and SpywareBlaster doesn't recognize some older versions either (including 0.8, which was my favorite).

Here's a site that's maybe easier to navagate for an earlier version of FF.
http://www.filehippo.com/download_firefox/?390
I was a diehard user and promoter of FF until 1.5 came out. The beta version of 1.5 worked better than the final. I went back to a previous version and had the same problems-WTF!
Am now using the free version of Opera with no problems and it's faster than FF. Even got it skinned to my liking :)

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Originally Posted by JoJo Gunn

No, nothing's changed. Came directly to this thread, (it's bookmarked), waited for page 1 to load, then page 2 , then clicked on the Index link, and that's as far as it would go. There was another blank space where a Crash ad was trying to load.

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You're right, I'm getting crashes again.

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Originally Posted by Nix

When I first hit this issue I posted on the Mozillazine forums and someone eventually came back and asked me if I had talkback installed.

I didn't and asked if there was some way of installing post existing installation, but they never came back to me.

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Reinstall Firefox over the top, and do a custom installation. I think it's called "Quality Feedback Agent" or something in setup.

In FF1.5 when I right clicked the tool bar and customized, there was a link I put on the bar called "Report Broken Website"....a round blue ball that breaks in half to indicate the current page is 'Broken' , which it always is when visiting VDr. Could this be the (a) 'talkback' tool?

Well, how about that? I didn't know that was added to the toolbar customizations. It's a "bug", not a blue ball, but maybe it's because I never install the thing that wants to phone home?

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Originally Posted by poppy4

In FF1.5 when I right clicked the tool bar and customized, there was a link I put on the bar called "Report Broken Website"....a round blue ball that breaks in half to indicate the current page is 'Broken' , which it always is when visiting VDr. Could this be the (a) 'talkback' tool?

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No, talkback is the thing that pops up immediately after Firefox crashes. It's like Microsoft's Windows Error Reporting, except it sends stuff to Mozilla instead of Microsoft.

I had FF 1.5 installed for about an hour and half. I un-installed it completely and dropped back to 1.0.7. No problems since. I keep the installers for older version in a folder I call Firefox(what else :) ) I even have Firebird still installed and working.

Well today i have had a few crashes and also a few freezes where I have had to kill Fx through task manager.

Then I noticed that some of the flash ads in the upper right corner were appearing (well blocked by flashblock still but not adblock) I right clicked on one and found that some of them are now being hosted at discussions.virtualdr.com instead of ad.doubleclick.net which I have blocked.

Bit of a disapppointment that instead of fixing the obviously faulty Flash ads that are causing the issue someone has made a decsion to change the place they are hosted from so that we cannot block them. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Nix

I right clicked on one and found that some of them are now being hosted at discussions.virtualdr.com instead of ad.doubleclick.net which I have blocked.

Bit of a disapppointment that instead of fixing the obviously faulty Flash ads that are causing the issue someone has made a decsion to change the place they are hosted from so that we cannot block them. :confused:

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There's an opportunity here. Given they're now on a JupiterMedia server, I'd hope that Joe can get direct links to all the Flash ads from someone. All we need are a bunch of static pages, each with one of those ads linked to from it, and we can poke them one by one until we know which pages crash.