need help with batch programming

Hi
I looked at what Vernon did, and I have to confirm what I already knew.
Vernon know this stuff.

I merely scratched the surface of what one can do in DOS.
I started by reading a book or two, and then I discovered the internet and its resources.
I did not expect others to do what I should learn.

Oh yes, I still ask questions. (oftentimes people think I am leading them on... )

anyway, I get the impression you have to learn about some basics.

http://www.ka.net/jmenees/Dos/Copy.htm

http://vernon.frazee.net/ms-dos/6.22/help/

http://www3.sympatico.ca/rhwatson/dos7/

with these three sites, you know as much as I do.
(heck, I would be crazy if I said I understand all of it)
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like I said, I looked at what vernon did, and you ought to be able to edit these files he created for you.

hey, better make a few copies of that floppy...
you don't have to burn a new CDRW each time
you can edit the floppy, boot off it (with the CD in the drive) and see how it goes...
edit again, try again...

it helps if you have a spare machine to run tests on while you are looking up how to do things....

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Originally posted by jtdoom

Hi
I looked at what Vernon did, and I have to confirm what I already knew.
Vernon know this stuff.

I merely scratched the surface of what one can do in DOS.
I started by reading a book or two, and then I discovered the internet and its resources.
I did not expect others to do what I should learn.

Oh yes, I still ask questions. (oftentimes people think I am leading them on... )

anyway, I get the impression you have to learn about some basics.

http://www.ka.net/jmenees/Dos/Copy.htm

http://vernon.frazee.net/ms-dos/6.22/help/

http://www3.sympatico.ca/rhwatson/dos7/

with these three sites, you know as much as I do.
(heck, I would be crazy if I said I understand all of it)

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yeas it's it true. i know nothing about batch/dos programming.
i tried to make the menu work by myself at the beginning, just by using commen sence (sp?) and looking at others work. but it didn't work well at all. i also at a time thought about learning this stuff. but it didn't took long before i undertod that, it would take at least half a year to a year to that i get basic know how in this subject. as i don't know any other language (as c++ etc).
then i thought, maybe someone will take their time and be help me about. i never thought it would take as much time as it has done. and i am so thankful i can't find words for it. i hope you guys understand that.

the earliest tip I ever got was when I saw somebody type /? after a command

I would like to find that wipedrive program you mention, so I can look at it.
you got a link for that?

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Originally posted by jtdoom
the earliest tip I ever got was when I saw somebody type /? after a command

I would like to find that wipedrive program you mention, so I can look at it.
you got a link for that?

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you can download a demo of it at www.accessdata.com

>> It does everything but: ... Copy the files from your CD-ROM drive to the RAMDrive.

> how dos i do that then ?

As I explained in that same post, change the following line in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file:

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for %%x in (fd lf ng pm sd wd) do echo xcopy %cdrom%:\%%x\*.* %ramd%:\%%x /s /e

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to:

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for %%x in (fd lf ng pm sd wd) do xcopy %cdrom%:\%%x\*.* %ramd%:\%%x /s /e

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(In other words, remove the word echo from between the words do and xcopy).

The reason that "echo" is in there is because I do not have a copy of your Toolz CD. If I tried to XCOPY files that don't exist here on my machine, I'd have XCOPY errors all over my screen. Therefore, I simply inserted an "echo" into that command so I could see what XCOPY commands were going to be issued once the word "echo" was removed from that line.

When you remove the word "echo" from that line, the XCOPY command that follows it will then be able to copy your files from your Toolz CD (that you have in your drive R:) up to the RAMDrive (that was created in the CONFIG.SYS file).

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By the way, that single 'for-in-do' command line does exactly the same thing as the following six separate command lines:

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xcopy %cdrom%:\fd\*.* %ramd%:\fd /s /e
xcopy %cdrom%:\lf\*.* %ramd%:\lf /s /e
xcopy %cdrom%:\ng\*.* %ramd%:\ng /s /e
xcopy %cdrom%:\pm\*.* %ramd%:\pm /s /e
xcopy %cdrom%:\sd\*.* %ramd%:\sd /s /e
xcopy %cdrom%:\wd\*.* %ramd%:\wd /s /e

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Since the only difference in these lines is the directory names, I combined them all in a single 'for-in-do' command. Not only is it more compact, it's actually a few milliseconds faster because DOS only has to read one line in the BATch file, (instead of six), to get the job done.

Thanks for explaining that Vernon Frazee.

The only tool menu option that work is scandisk ( but it wont let be do a surface scan :( ). The error message i get form the other tools options is,bad command or filename. I have also tried with adding /? as jtdoom told me to but it doesn't help :(

It just hit me that the ram drive is set to E:, then what happens if i got a hhd or a cd device added to that letter laiter on ?

i notest this when the cd menu is loading:

• Drive R: = Drive MSCD001 unit 0
  Drive S: = Drive MSCD001 unit 1
  
  Copying Bogiz's Toolz from CD-ROM Drive to RAMdrive E:
  
  Bad command or file name
  Bad command or file name
  Bad command or file name
  Bad command or file name
  Bad command or file name
  Bad command or file name
  
  Loding Bogiz's Toolz menu ...

Edit:
edit out one Bad command or file name, as there is only six error message of that kind when the menu loads.

hi

/?
this /? just opens help on the command you enter.
mind you, you often get some help by just entering the command (because you did not give it any parameters.)

for instance
copy /?
dir /?
scandisk /?

that is what I meant.
the built in help (if any) can get you going, albeit it can be very cryptic....

I have a proposal. If you like, send me a copy of your Toolz CD (with all of the Toolz installed in separate directories), and everytime I get chance I'll work on it for you. (Since we're getting into the Holiday Season here, give me say four weeks; sooner if possible of course).

Once I have the basics working correctly I'll return it to you, (via your self-addressed, stamped return mailer, [USPS, UPS, DHL or FedEx]). Then if necessary, we can work on altering exactly what you want each Menu item to do here in this forum.

If this sounds like a plan, let me know here and I'll send my office address to you via email.

Thanks a million Vernon Frazee for the offer.
But as far as i know, it would be illegal to send you the tools. Which mean i wont send it.

Hope you still up for trying to locate the problem(s), by communicate useing this forum. But i understand if you don't.

By the way, maybe you could burn the boot cd with your fdisk, scandisk and the demo of wipedrive and see if you could find where the problem is. If you wanna to/got the time to of cause

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Originally posted by jtdoom
hi

/?
this /? just opens help on the command you enter.
mind you, you often get some help by just entering the command (because you did not give it any parameters.)

for instance
copy /?
dir /?
scandisk /?

that is what I meant.
the built in help (if any) can get you going, albeit it can be very cryptic....

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Hi

Thanks for the the expalining that command. I sure did make a fool out of myself :)
It sure looks like a handy command to me :)

hi

when you try that boot CDROM, do you try it in BOTH drives?

the problem with mscdex is that it can support more than one drive at the same time, and the one your CD is in, may not be given the letter R:

that was why I used findCD in my tools CD...

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Originally posted by jtdoom
hi

when you try that boot CDROM, do you try it in BOTH drives?

the problem with mscdex is that it can support more than one drive at the same time, and the one your CD is in, may not be given the letter R:

that was why I used findCD in my tools CD...

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I always use the first cd device when i try the boot cd out.
If i remember right, it wont boot from the secund one.