Ok this gets you the member list ordered by posts which can also be achived by going to the member list page and clicking on the Posts link above the post count.
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/mem...rt=posts&pp=20
Ok this gets you the member list ordered by posts which can also be achived by going to the member list page and clicking on the Posts link above the post count.
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/mem...rt=posts&pp=20
Add mine. Not only do I dislike to squashed appearance of the forum and its contents, but the width keeps changing because the ads are different widths. I find it very jarring and unpleasant.Quote:
I think your going to get many many more complaints doing it this way though..
I may be the only one that feels this way, because another forum that I used to like a lot did a similar change. I tried to cope, but I just found it too jarring and gradually have found myself not using that forum much any more. I hate that the same might happen with this one (I habitually visit here a couple times per day) but my guess is that it will. Sigh.
Ditto. The side ad thing can work if the ads are narrow (eg discussions.hardwarecentral.com) and if most of the users are running at least 1024x768. If the ads are going to be variable size I'd much rather have them at the top and need to scroll down a bit further. This is supposed to be a forum, not a newspaper column. ;)
I agree that the ads were probably best left alone. It's extremely annoying! Couldn't you have put ads at the top of the page and not bothered with the huge WASTED area of the site....
Ok a bit late on this one but better late than never heh?
Ads: Yes, another vote to do something about them. Its ok if I Adblock the iFrame in FF, but annoying that I have to do that everytime. Maybe someone knows how to do it automatically?
Site Design: Brilliant. Not much to complain about, its nice to see this forum have features I have seen on others places for a while now.
I'm off to explore...then I have my A+ Hardware exam in like 45mins... :eek: :eek: :eek:
Ah, any chance more smilies can be added in?
Hong
This forum (www.cable-forum.co.uk) is running VBulletin 3.07, and I like this feature telling you how many posts have been made since you last logged in:
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/im.../2005/03/6.jpg
Thoughts?
Where are the virtual nurses...hubba hubba :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JPNYC
Its think its a pretty good idea. I like it.
I see the smilies are back to what they were on the previous version. Can they be changed and can you add more?
I don't see why users can't have the responsibility of changing their own subject. :confused:
About the ad taking up the whole right side. This is a disaster. For VDr I mean. Its visibly unpleasant. When new users come here, they want to feel comfortable with the design of the page. There is much more to computer technical forums than the help you get from the users. The design is also very important. VDr has taken a big step by upgrading the VBulletin version. I'd hate to see VDr take 1 step forward and two steps back. This is something that can only hurt VDr, not help it. As mentioned by many, the ad should be put up top, I don't think that would bother anyone. It should run length wise of the whole page, from left to right, and not be a perfect square that leaves a lot of white.
Registered users can change their titles.
I was refering to the subject of a post, not a users title.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPNYC
So just so we know (and since I haven't seen it formerly said here), is there agreement to rework this ad/page-layout issue or not?
Yeah because at home using 800x600 it's equivalent to 1/2 my screen being white space and that truly sux.
In fact I'm not even getting the ad at home (must be blocking it via my host file), but the whitespace is still there !!!!!!!!! :(
I believe this is your answer:
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JPNYC;
That ad will occasionally double in length, but the width won't grow larger (occasionally smaller). It's possible that we may add some more content below it to try to balance out the page.
In other words then the answer is the issue will not be worked. I think that is a mistake. Filling the blank space is not the problem for people BJ. It is that that whole area being there period causes an annoyance.
I understand your concern but thats going to be a trade off for upgrading our forum software. Im not saying that it's a great thing but it's something that we will have to get used to. Sorry, BJ.
When the ads were on top, we heard complaints about that. People didn't like scrolling down to get to the posts. You can find some of those complaints in this feedback section. So we moved them from the top, but gave up some width. I understand that users would like to see no ads at all, but without them there's no board.
But is is a fundimental tradeoff is the question BJ? The ads (or white space) being there is simply a matter of formatting on the page, and formatting can be changed. Now I realize that there are tradeoffs in terms of things like if you move one thing one place something else must be moved somewhere else, or that the decision that it is more desirable to have some object say at the top of the page may preclude moving another object from its locations. But the point is these tradeoffs can be accessed, the formatting is not cast in stone.
Understand what you're saying JP, which ties to one of the points on tradeoffs I made above. But the question is, having seen it the way it is now that it is the way it is, is this in fact still what's desired. People might have said yes to moving ads off the top before, but without knowing the effect it would cause.
I was going to suggest putting it at the bottom of the page since you always end up at the bottom if you read the most recent posting and or post to the thread.
Seems like it just happened though ???
Or is that just me.
Ok correction, in IE it's at the bottom of the page, in FF I get whitespace ???
I got IE Nix, it is at the right.
Any body got any reference sites with layouts including ads and similar other page features to vdr? Maybe to give some ideas and possibilities?
Running 800x600 in WinMe IE 5.5 FF 1.0.1
What the heck is going on there Nix? Like I say, my ads in IE (IE 6 un XP right now, but isn't different on other systems) are never there at the bottom.
If I click on Feedback forum the ad is at the right but this thread it goes to the bottom, will check out some other threads.
Just switched to a system like yours (ME, IE 5.5, 800x600). And son of a gun I seee what you are saying now. But that looks to be a formatting error/problem. If looks like the add is down at the bottom, but overlaying some buttons.
Phew thought I was going crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMDJ
Maybe it displays differently at lower resolution so as not to use half th screen as white space as per my FF.
Has to be a 5.5 bug. It was a buggy version. I've tested it on 3 OS , 2 screen res. and with 4 browsers and not once did I see that.
Hmm maybe I should start using IE again instead of FF and lower my resolution to 800x600 at work too :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by JPNYC
http://el-muerte.student.utwente.nl/lba/forum/Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMDJ
EDIT: Oops totally missed the advertising bit, OTB for me it's 1:12am
Not a resolution issue cause on ie6 it behaves the normal (bad) way. Like JP said, I see it as an IE 5.5 (or related) bug, or maybe just a deficiency compared to IE6.
5.5 has a number of bugs. For instance, it doesn't read the CSS background-color property. I found this out the hard way when a client opened a site I built for him in it and saw a white background. There's other issues with it also.
That you rely on the ad for revenue tells me the setup is not going to change, since that ad is more important that the sensitivity of your viewers. That seems shortsighted to me since if you lose the viewers (and your advertisers will know if you do) then your ads will go away.
It is not merely that the ads are too wide and overly compress the forum. That itself is a problem that diminishes the value of the forum, mind you. It's bad enough on my 1024 x 768 display, and I shudder to think what it would look like a the 800 x 600 still used by so many.
The worse problem is that the ads are different widths and that the forum keeps changing widths unpredictably. I find this jarring and unpleasant and I know that I will be leaving. That's not a threat. I will leave reluctantly and gradually over time, because the annoyance of that visual effect will get to me. It has happened on other forums.
The ads can be configured so that they are narrow and all the same width. If you don't do that, you are going to lose some present and many future members. That may or may not concern you, but it should concern your advertisers.
Can some sort of wrap effect be used so that the post width at the level of the ad is narrow but below the ad it is at screen width?
OMG....I too have experienced the excruciating pain in my index finger as I turned the scroll wheel on my poor mouse not once , but ONE AND A HALF TIMES to get down to the posts! Just think of the calories I burned in doing so! I was forced to eat 3 Power Bars and drink a quart of Gatorade every time I visited VDR and had to *shudder* scroll down slightly to get to the posts!Quote:
Originally Posted by JPNYC
Good grief.... :rolleyes:
Ads I don't mind, if they fit the "motif" and do not interfere with the main purpose of the board...but I am in complete agreement with Bill Hefner and others here: The white zone on the right has got to go. Makes the site look ridiculous to be quite honest. A complete waste of space (and I'm not proposing to fill it all up with advertising). There has got to be a better solution. Put the ad back on the top or on the bottom...as Nix said, we all get there eventually anyway when reading the posts.
One example: The forums at Wincustomize. Yes, there is a narrow gap on the left side, but look what they put in there....useful menus. And there is still room for two ads at the top. Even with that gap I find this site to be easier on the eye than what VDR is now. I suppose it is because with the gap on the left, it mentally appears more like just an indentation. With a big gap on the right, it leaves one with the feeling that everything has been "cut off". (I know I may not be making much sense here...but hey....it's Bistro, OK?)
Dear Virtual Doctor team,
Congratulations for the new look and for upgrading to vBulletin 3! :) I'm sure everyone will appreciate the effort made in testing and implementing all changes, once they get used to them.
The only thing I'd like to point out is that the horizontal bar on top of each post, containing the username, avatar, title, location, join date and number of posts, is adding up to the page height making scrolling annoying. Also, since the posts now stretch from one window margin to the other, sentences are reheheheheeeaaaally long and difficult to follow when jumping from the end of one row to the beginning of the next, on high resolution monitors (like mine). Please take into consideration making the user info a column at the left of the post, to both shorten the page and slightly decrease the width of the sentences.
All the best wishes,
- puterfixer
Using IE 6.0 sometimes my columns are too narrow, but sometimes they're not! When they ARE, if I hit my refresh button a couple of times, it seems to correct itself. I'll be testing same issues on FireFox next couple of days.
Where is a list of icon descriptions for the new default icons? I can't seem to make heads or tails of them. (Whether they contain new messages, have been replied to, etc.)
Overall, I don't MIND the new interface, but don't really find anything beneficial to it either... just my 2ยข worth...
They're at the bottom of the forum pages, and thread lists.
Had not noticed them, thanks very much!
I DO have an ad-blocker running from a Dogpile toolbar in IE 6.0, would that account for my "right of column" whitespace changing from time to time?
It was my understanding that the complaints made about the advertisements being on top were for the main page only, www.virtualdr.com. I thought suggestions were made that on the main page, the ads should not fill 2/3 of the screen because it is unattractive to new users, and makes the web site "misunderstood", ie no one knows what this website is about. Did anyone complain about the advertisements in the posts area? I shouldn't think that would bother anyone. As Bistro put it, "Good grief". But maybe I misunderstood the whole issue of the advertisements on V2.
This situation is simply unbearable. I can't stand the new look of the boards with the big white space right there on the right of my screen. Why not use some common sense and at least do what Leurgy suggested (which is a fine compromise in my opinion) where the first post next to the advertisement is shortened, and the rest of the posts, underneath the ad, will fill the whole screen.