borgioise and you should just forget it.
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borgioise and you should just forget it.
mach
mach2
I know there are errors still in there
can you spot them?
JT (doom o'l friend..) no problems old onliner.. amiable and helper!! I wish this upstart would consider similar "habits of cordiality"
... hope things are going your way?
mach2
MACH2,
What's up with you?
i would never demand answers and i can't see where i have insulted anyone here.
My english may not be as good as some of yours, as it is not my first language (i do know that i have done lots of typos, i have edit my post as when i have seen them).
If those who have replied to this trhread have feelt insulted (i can't really see why the would) i sure do appologize.
Would be nice to know where in my replies i have insulted and demand help thought.
Edit:
lets hear what those who have replied think.
Have i insulted you in any way ?
I do know that, but thanks for the thought (scandisk is going to be start up by autoexec.bat as i want to use some comand-line switches for it)Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
notes;
scandisk.ini is useful for customising scandisk
since a CDrom has plenty room, I would copy that too
Yeah, i had really no idea what to chage that to. Thanks for taking care of it.Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
I saw that this was unfinished
autoexec.bat was used all over the place, and fdisk was the name for every program.
Thnaks for the info, will have a look at that.Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
another note
I recall some older versions of ghost used ghost.env file
(which has the licence key in it).
So i should not use the autoexec.bat for Lost and found to loading it you think. Will i not lose mose support etc then ? (do not have a zipdrive)Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
have just installed lost and found to see what files it uses.
I may have an old version
still, I think it is advisable to copy more than one file into the ramdrive rather than just lf.exe
you don't need the cdrom support files
if you have a zipdrive, you would need to also launch guest.exe (and have it available on the CDROM)
but... I am sure you need the things in data folder
and files like refresh and renew
plus the other driver files not pertaining to cdrom like nibble and ddloader
a CD has ample room, but the version I have is three floppies, with folders in them.
I think these have to be copied fort the program to work
because they was put on CDROM, you may actually need to get them on writable medium, (for instance, a ramdrive)
if they need writable medium, you would have to attrib -r them too (because read only)
and, like I said before, I would want to save logs to a permanent medium (not ramdrive).
Sorry got no idea what that is about as well.Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
question
I wonder what this lgldrv stuff does
I hope this won't interfere with booting off the CDROM itself
I can tell you that the files I got off CDROM by way of xclone do NOT use this lgldrv stuff.
Maybe Vernon Frazee do
Will have a look at the menu changes you have done. Thanks.
you can create batchfiles with other name than autoexec.bat, you know...
an example
C2D.bat
========
R:\dos8\mouse
R:\dos8\GHOST.EXE -split=645 -autoname -z9 -clone,MODE=pdump,SRC=1:1,DST=D:\DRIVE_C.GHO
=======
you can even start batchfiles from within batchfiles.
far as I know, the better way to do that is by using call.
(i don't do it this way, because I don't mess with menus... I have all the tools in dos8, and use very few batchefiles))
but, for instance
call R:\dos8\c2d.bat
========
I can tell you about one little problem with batchfiles.
This little problem soon gets worse when batches are called or simply ran from within other batches
suppose it launches several things in sequence
there are programs that load and stay,
there are programs that load and exit.
Now, if the prompt where it stopped or exited is not in the path, the original batchfile cannot continue because it is not found again.
now, suppose that if it found another batch with same name it started from in the path, it could attempt to continue from the wrong batchfile.
(I don't think it would continue, tho)
the processes you want started with a batchfile may all work when you test them batches from floppy, but the batch may fail to process all when launched off another drive...
now, next... because you wondered.
the config.sys and autoexec.bat I found in lost and found version 1.6 normally have to be changed.
BUT, you don't use zipdrive
and cdrom support is already present.
therefore, all you need to launch is lf.exe
I still have to run trial.
I wanna find out wether LF needs the other files as well.
If YOU know, just tell us...
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dunno when I can post again.
have to do a few things.
(setup on two machines, and network with ICS.)
make sure you have mouse.com and mouse.ini on that CD
or, on the floppy.
if you need room, you can delete drvspace.bin off that floppy
you can probably also delete a lot of that SCSI stuff for CDROM
mine are all atapi (IDE devices) so I only need OAKCDROM.sys
[COMMON]
device=himem.sys
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
files=60
buffers=16
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 8192
lastdrive=z
you can load mouse from autoexec.bat
@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O /w /p
LH mouse
then you have mouse support for all apps that can use it
Hi again, have been away...
I don't really understad what to do. Shall i chage the *.* to the file names that the tools starts up by ?
To me it looks like that *.* is used to copy all the files to the raddrive.
These are the names of the files that loads my tools:
FD (fdisk) - fdisk.exe
LF (lost & found) - autoexec.bat is the original start up file (don't know if it's better to edit out the cd-rom support file that's is included with this tool)
NG (norton ghost) - ghost.exe
PM (partition magic) - autoexe1.bat
SD (scandisk) - scandisk.bat (load scandisk with a command-line sitch to scan all partitions on all hdd's)
WD (WipeDrive) - wd.bat (chage it from autoexec.bat, which was the name when i copy it from the flopy)
Would be lovely if i could get some help with this as well.
Question #1: Is your CD always going to be drive "R:"?
Question #2: From what I understand so far, your CD will have the following six sub-directories:Is this correct?
- FD
(FDisk)- LF
(Lost & Found)- NG
(Norton Ghost)- PM
(Partition Magic)- SD
(ScanDisk)- WD
(WipeDrive)
Question #3: If so, will each one of the above sub-directories contain all of the files and programs needed to run each respective Tool?
Question #4: If so, how much room (in bytes) is needed for all of the files (and subdirectories) in each one of those six subdirectories? (You can do a "DIR /A /S" within each subdirectory to find out).
We'll need to know this to determine how large to make the RAMDrive.
Vernon
lost and found is three diskettes
half of the first are dos system and fluff for CDROM support he don't need copy in ramdrive. (Bogiz, that is because it's already running ...)
he also need NOT copy that autoexec.bat for it, nor its config.sys
disk one two and three make for about 2.8Mb
(gotta look wether I find back disk 1, because I recently formatted it may have moved places...)
bogiz
if you care to look to what I put up, you see that
lf\lf
launches lost and found...
there is no need to mess with batches within batches if you can avoid it
same thing for scandisk
why launch it with scand.bat ?
you can put the options in the original menu?
=================================
I would like vernon's opinion on this.
:TOOLA
echo.
echo Loading Fdisk ...
%RAMD%
cd\FD
fdisk /status
cd\
goto Pause
:TOOLB
echo.
echo Loading Lost and found ...
%RAMD%
md LF OOPS, this was missing
cd LF
copy R:\LF\*.*
on the CDROM, you put only those files that are needed from first disk, and I would copy the folders too. and I STILL think it is NOT a good idea to run lost and found off a CDROM.
attrib *.* -r
md drivers
cd drivers
copy R:\lf\drivers\*.*
attrib *.* -r
cd..
md data
cd data
copy R:\LF\data\*.*
attrib *.* -r
cd\
LF\LF
cd\
goto Pause
:TOOLC
echo.
echo Nortons Ghost ...
%RAMD%
NG\ghost -fro bogiz, this -frocan save the day one day. Use it.
cd\
goto Pause
:TOOLD
echo.
echo Partition Magic ... yet another tool I would NOT run off CDROM... I want to be able to save logs to undo...
%RAMD%
PM\pm
cd\
goto Pause
:TOOLE
echo.
echo Scandisk ...
%RAMD%
cd SD
attrib scandisk.ini -r
scandisk /custom
cd\
goto Pause
:TOOLF
echo.
echo WipeDrive ...
%RAMD%
WD\wipe whatever the executable is called, plus the options you want to put after it. if that batch is giving you a menu and options, oh well. But bogiz, WE don't know what you are gonna be using....
cd\
goto Pause
Question #1: Yes the first drive will be set to r:
Question #2: Yes.
Question #3: Yes. lost & Found got two folders in the rootdir called LF, the folders names is data and drivers thought (the drivers dir holds cd-rom support files and some other file, guest files etc).
Question #4: Will soon look into that.
FD - 1 file 66 700 byte
LF - 35 files 3 418 678 byte
NG - 1 file 1 024 016 byte
PM - 26 files 2 086 703 byte
SD - 3 files 256 050 byte
WD - 7 files 281 592 byte
i had no idea what that did. lost and found didn't work from the menu when i tried you chages. didn't even start up :(Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
bogiz
if you care to look to what I put up, you see that
lf\lf
launches lost and found...
Edit: i meent to say that you other post with the chages, didn't work. fdisk and all the other tools didn't work aswell. will give the one with the new chages ago.
why is that ?Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
there is no need to mess with batches within batches if you can avoid it
didn't know you could pu the command-line switches in there.Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
same thing for scandisk
why launch it with scand.bat ?
you can put the options in the original menu?
looks lay much esayer to me to have a bat-file each which you add the command-line swites to for the tool.
what does the -fro switch do ?Quote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
NG\ghost -fro bogiz, this -frocan save the day one day. Use it.
it load with a bat file that only got this command in it, @wipedrv. beside that file there is a command file and the tool itselfQuote:
Originally posted by jtdoom
whatever the executable is called, plus the options you want to put after it. if that batch is giving you a menu and options, oh well. But bogiz, WE don't know what you are gonna be using....
Got a new example ready for you: bogboot.exe (862,054 bytes). It does everything but:(The reason it doesn't do either of these is because I don't have your Toolz on a CD).
- Copy the files from your CD-ROM drive to the RAMDrive.
- Load each individual tool from the Toolz Menu.
However, the AUTOEXEC.BAT and MENU.BAT files are now commented so they should be fairly easy for you to alter. The only changes you'll (probably) need to make are:In other words, whatever command you use to launch a particular program at a DOS prompt, that is the exact same command you need to use in the MENU.BAT file.
- Change the following line in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file:
to:Code:for %%x in (fd lf ng pm sd wd) do echo xcopy %cdrom%:\%%x\*.* %ramd%:\%%x /s /e
(In other words, remove the echo between do and xcopy).Code:for %%x in (fd lf ng pm sd wd) do xcopy %cdrom%:\%%x\*.* %ramd%:\%%x /s /e
- Then you'll need to replace each line in MENU.BAT that begins with "rem - " with the DOS command needed to start each respective program. For example, in the :FD (FDisk) section, which now looks like this:
You'll probably want to change it to simply this:Code::FD
echo Loading Fdisk ...
cd\fd
rem - Replace this line with the line to load FDISK
goto Pause
And in the :SD (ScanDisk) section, which now looks like this:Code::FD
echo Loading Fdisk ...
cd\fd
fdisk
goto Pause
You'll probably want to change it to look something like this:Code::SD
echo Loading ScanDisk ...
cd\sd
rem - Replace this line with the line to load ScanDisk
goto Pause
Code::SD
echo Loading ScanDisk ...
cd\sd
scandisk /all /autofix /nosummary
goto Pause
Note: I've taken the liberty of removing the dual-menu setup. The main reason is since the computer is always going to boot using ALL of the lines in CONFIG.SYS (and AUTOEXEC.BAT), the CONFIG.SYS menu wasn't really necessary.
I've also increased the size of the RAMDrive to 12MB and directed the TEMP and TMP environment variables to use the \TEMP directory on the RAMDrive. After loading the Windows 98 Diagnostic Tools as well as all of your Toolz, you should still have at least 4MB free on the RAMDrive. (If this isn't enough, simply increase the "12288" number on the "ramdrive.sys" line in the CONFIG.SYS file).
Try it and let me know what you think. It does absolutely nothing to any hard drive so it's safe to use on most any PC with at least 16MB of RAM (and capable of running Windows 98).
"It does everything but Copy the files from your CD-ROM drive to the RAMDrive."
how dos i do that then ?
i gave the menu agot now, got i only got scandisk to work, by some reason.
what do i do to be able to get the question about surface scan in scandisk ? didn't get the qestion if i wanned to do it when i run scndisk from the menu.