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Maxx,
As Bistro said, there is a lot to be said for first making sure everything is put together and working before putting the system "under the knife". The flip side of that is of course (again, as Bistro said) that everything does need to be taken apart/out if you are going to be cutting. Those little peices of metal (and metal dust) will raise holy hell if they get where they shouldn't (which is anywhere).
And as Kallikru said, round the edges after cutting.
A dremel tool with suitable attachments is invaluable.
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6000 post. are your fingers sore https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Now for the next batch ehh?
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Ya'all keep this up and Bistro will head for the "mountain". https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Just got in from work and guess what folks. We are still on manual ops. Sheeeesh https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
All right all ready - I received an In Win S500 case today. Came through in good shape with the exception of one front cover "post latch" which was broken off at the base and easily repairable with a high tech glue. Had a bag of parts - all sorts of thingys - looks like feet for the case, various screws, rails etc. Has a 250W PS and fan with another fan case on the bottom front. Wife said I couldn't sleep with it. Danged it (this phrase for Jaak). https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
I feel like a kid with a new toy. Let's see. Got the case, RAM, 40GB HD. It's a start. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Here is the power supply specs.
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Congrats on 6000 Bistro....I know some of them were very helpful to me....GG1 my wife said the same thing no sleeping with the new case.....ha ha......try to resist the urge of putting the ram and the 40 gig drive into the inwin case and seeing if it will boot without the mobo and cpu..Things are shaping up looks like you should be getting ready around the end of next week maybe?
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GG1,
Thought you were going the 300 watt route?
If you were going to be sleeping with your case you might have been better off going with a full tower.
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Had to watch a speech.
DrMDJ, After figuring what was going into BT, the 250W PS was more than adequate. This computer will be set for data collection and experimentation of methods and procedures. The next one will be the chinga daddy rock of a computin' motin gater. But enough of that, we gotta build BT first.
Sarkazztic, when all the components are here we will start building. No rush. I want BT to come up just like the QoHs did. You push the power button and wallah - you are operating.
I have waited eleven months to put this project together together. I want to enjoy every step in this build. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Hi,
last week a friend brought in his old machine. "you can upgrade or replace, this is your budget...)
old specs= intel EB733, cheap FCPGA Q-Lity mobo (via-chips) (which cannot do AGPx4...)
3*128 sdram
SBLIVE
siluro DDR 64MB vidcard
DVDrom
HP burner
40giga maxtor
network card (cable access)
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XX excess hardware was XX
external modem V90
"old" geforce 200 MX
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he found a prospect new owner for old hardware.
thus, budget is "reasonable"
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two days ago I saw its cheaply made 230watt PSU suddenly give the ghost (this case was around 30 months old, and had, IMHO, been overtaxed. It was upgraded before, see. originally had a celeron slot one...)
Anyway, PSU died.
this happnened after I removed his burner, SBlive, DDR video monster card (replaced it with 32Mb geforce mx200)
and after I had replaced his hard drive with same model.
everything ran dandily, and a day after that, it won't power on when I plugged in the strip and flipped the master switch on. = cold start.
dead? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
well, thing is, I put a 145 watt PSU in to test mobo, and it runs.
(have pulled 2*128 after the first full boot, so as not to kill this weak PSU)
this machine has to be sold, so I have ordered two 300W PSU... (it isn't going out with only 145W in it)
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next story..
last saturday I was at the shop ordering the stuff for his new machine, and I saw a two weeks old 350Watt give the ghost, after tranport to shop, and replacing hardware.
this guy has a need for many hard disks...
anyway, he had ordered an epox screamer to replace his old system
out went older amd athlon 500 (slot A)
in went epox (like mine), and high end athlon
256DDR, and a geforce 2 mx200.
fsb was set, power added
the thing did not power on.
they tried PSU on old and yet another mobo, still dead, tried new PSU, up it went
we discussed power on requirements.
(for instance, look at min load on GG1 PSU,
+5V=4A to max27, but 3.3 is zero to max.)
Anyway, QUESTION
I wonder if these things can't stand bumps...
why do they just stop working?
no CPU fan, no PSU fan, no nothing...
I saw no led light.
(well, at the shop they had led one light, no but no PSU and CPU fan spin https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ )
hmmm, will connect this dead 230W to other machine and look at LED.
I already looked inside the 230W, and far as I could find out, the soldered on fuse (glass tube) is still good.
got dust devils out
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what else is servicable in these things?
a good PSU costs a bundle https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
one can buy a "cheapo" case and get the PSU out.
matter of fact, a while ago I got a case for five bucks (a medium quality case).
Just guess what the shop did?
(Yeah, hence the order for a second 300W)
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this guy I am doing this for gets an
* aopen midi tower with
* 300W PSU (budget allows it, REPLACES ORIG 250W IN AOPEN HQ45, it's only a small surcharge, & the 250 can be used elswhere.)
* epox mobo 8K7A (ata100, DDR, no raid)
* athlon 1333 @ 266
* 512 DDR pc2100
* taisol cooler (depends on time of arrival, also still waiting for epox)
(other cooling options, cooler master EP5-6i11 or an even louder dp5-6i32c
sblive
dvd
burner
siluro
netcard
* second case fan
40GB maxtor 7200rpm
* = new stuff
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still wondering why they just die.
matter of fact, I think he saw the configurating troubles start after the burner was added, and when he recently went for this siluro, it didn't help.
BEFORE it died, I noticed his BIOS settings were all messed up. The 230W PSU may have been dying/causing problems for him.
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Jaak,
I agree with you Jaak. I don't know what you said, but I'll agree with it. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
GG1,
No prolemo, just wondered. Ah yes, the speech. A difficult speech, in difficult times. But very well done.
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DrMDJ, Jaak was holding forth on experiences he has had with power supplies. In essence - don't buy cheap power supplies. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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PS going like that, hard to tell which component in there was overheated/substandard.
I am using the DP5-6H11-A1 and it works fine.
Now this one moves more air. 38dB though.
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GG1: I broke one of those off within 2 days of receiving the same case https://discussions.virtualdr.com/. Gotta be careful removing that front panel. After pressing in the tabs on the side, it'll open like a door (swings to the right a little) , but you must be gentle when removing it off the right-side mounts. I know you are quite excited--so are we. But step back, take a Valium, do it one step at a time, make a list of each step and build slowly. Then, when the whole thing is up and running, and you download a shareware program that completely screws up the entire registry, you can post more questions in the Win 98 forum....we'll be there too. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
BTW Train: Yes, my fingers are sore. But I'm working on a voice recognition program that'll work for VDr. Will be able to dictate posts rather than type. Problem right now is that it recognizes "Uh..." as "Yes, definitely".
Example: Change the jumpers (yes, definitely), to (yes, definitely) the J2 connection (yes, definitely), I think. I (Yes, definitely) hope that (yes, definitely) it will solve your problem.
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Hi All, Taking my computer down to put in the PCI Card I received this week. I'll let you know how it went when I come back up online. Later https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Goose,
What are you planning of putting into BT - good ol' '98 SE...I hope..?
Just spent a night in the company of WinMe - one of those nights you'll never forget. A friend of mine has the same Compaq Presario (5861) as I have, favourably bought as a home PC with the help of the company I work for. His machine badly needed a reinstallation, so I decided to do the installation on my own machine on a spare disk, which would then be copied to his disk.
Finally, after 5 hours - at 2.30 AM, I had everything up and working as I wanted it. I then rebooted one last time....and everything was w r o n g: Video drivers couldn't be found, no sound, BSOD popping up re£peatedly - couldn't even boot to safe mode anymore. After some screaming and fussing I decided to clean out the disk once more (5th time, I think) and switch over to -98 SE. At 4 PM the machine was running again and I was ready for bed.
I then spent a couple of hours this morning installing the rest of the programs and brought the machine over to my friend at noon.
I have a feeling the trouble can be traced to a combination of Presario and WinMe. CPQ puts a lot of tricks into those Presarios, and I think that makes it very difficult for them to work with anything else than what has been preinstalled. Fx. to make the 3D sound work CPQ has put something into the bios itself.. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ - and on top of that you have to install an additional 50 MBs worth of drivers ect. to make that sound thing work.
I'll stick with '98 SE & W2K....and I'm not buying any more Presarios in this life. Only home-built once get into my house. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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