bistro
thank you.
Will need to do some more shoping around as I think I remember a length limit there.
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bistro
thank you.
Will need to do some more shoping around as I think I remember a length limit there.
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Well, I was reading and came back to see what was going on and what to my wondering eyes should appear but more required reading. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/Think I'll go back to reading.
Found these but that Diemon is something else. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Geforce 2 MX 105
ATI Max Dual 64M AGP 119
ATI Xpert Fury Pro 32MB AGP 80
I have had good luck with the fury line.
bistro , You now anything good/bad about them?
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Oh good Train !
I got sidetracked and looked at the cases instead.
Is the In Win really slanted back like it looks ?
Looks wider too. The In Win has a place for an extra fan but the Enlight said Not Specified.
Good place to research for current prices; check reputability of vendors, etc. here
A couple of good review sites:
Dis One...and Dat One....
Stating the obvious here (I'm really good at that...), but remember as you're looking around the Net at video reviews/prices, check the dates--noticed a lot of review sites are quite old. One place (no date apparent) said that "a 2 to 4 mb video card is good for light gaming". Nowadays a card like that is good for target practice only.
Not too familiar specifically with those cards, Train. But for a budget card (150 or less), the ATI Radeon 32 mb DDR is considered one of the best. I'd take a serious look at that GeForce card--very nice.
My slant on the 64mb cards: really nifty if you want big and bad; but there currently aren't any games or apps that require that much vid memory--read an article that the gaming industry can't afford right now to make games that do---too many potential customers wouldn't have the resources to play it-hence, no sale. Makes sense. By the time that becomes a reality, they'll have more high-tech cards out anyway. Everyone who bought a 64 now will probably want to upgrade to a "better" one. The only reason I'd consider getting one at the current prices is for "bragging rights" https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ (Neener neener neeeeeener...mine's faster than yoooouuurs.... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/)
Ok...bedtime for bistro. Lots of good stuff here...I'm having fun...
As far as cases are concerned---lots and lots of good ones out there---hard to choose, but my next case will be this. I just like it's versatility and the room it gives to expand.
Can't really "recommend" it...I just like what I see.
Bye for now...
Thanks for the links. Like what I saw about the GeForce card. Believe it will hit the "list!" 4X memory should help in rendering 3d stuff.
Do not need stuff that has nothing for it!
Besides, most of the games are problably written for my 386 which has no cd-rom.
Ok by me. Will be checking mbs more. Kind of like asus features for athlons https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ ,600 o/c 800 and stay cool in games. Will Spend a little more on bearing type fan.
Still searching.
Have found in a few places, excellent prices and when adding shiping can get local for same price or better. Time to do window shopping also.
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The GeForce 2 MX is that a 32MB card too ?
559.00 + 105.00 = 663.00 https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
....add another 100 for misc. tools and the inevitable unforseen things.
Oh yeah....tax. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Night guys https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Thanks
Gotta work harder
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Q_O_H
Yes it is a 32MB card.
Times are PST.
Get up about 3 AM
Leave house 4 AM
Get home 2pm
That way I miss rush hour trafic and the job allows the times so bed time and past 8:15 pm.
Like that case bistro. One part at a time https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Night folks!
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hmmmmm....I see there are some questions about price of CPU's and RAM. Remember, if the item is no longer being manufactured, (ie. 16Mb 72 pin EDO RAM) then its price will increase! Resellers must pay higher prices for dwindling supplies. They end up passing the price increases on to consumers. This may be the case for Celeron CPU's. Most of them were in the 500 to 600MHz range.
greengoose1:
You asked earlier about my recommendation for an OS. For the most part I agree with Bistro. But a big dilemma is looming in the future!
Win95 and Win98 first edition are no longer supported by Microsoft. Win98SE is currently supported but, with the introduction of WIN ME it may only be supported for about a year or so and, NT 4.0 is being phased due to the introduction of Win 2000. That effectively leaves the various flavors of Linux. Unfortunately, Linux is for geeks. Its an awesome OS to play with, but at this time its far too complicated for the average user.
So, where does that leave us? With Win98 SE or WIN ME. After looking at WIN ME, I found no compelling reason to upgrade.
Having dual booted 98SE and NT4.0, I found that I ran into trouble finding NT4.0 drivers for some of my hardware and ended up using WIN98 SE about 98% of the time. So, my recommendation is just to run WIN98SE, until Microsoft finally delivers its "Whisper" or "Micropuke" OS sometime in the future. Of course, you can dual boot with NT 4.0 if you really plan on bringing your work home.
Morning All, The gnomes have been busy once again. Information is flooding the delta. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Break out the lifejackets! Fill dem sandbags!
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Gotta go to work---have 4 stations to stare at all day---will keep this site on one and check in from time to time.
Morning https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Brighteyed and bushy tailed!
I'm going to window shop today. Got my list in my pocket.
Just looking......and drooling https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
I have asked several questions regarding the relationship of components and how they work together. This has helped the understanding of the data flow (1's and 0's). This then can help a person troubleshoot a problem more effectively. Then the other side of the coin is using the capabilities of the hard ware and software to obtain the desired results. By thinking along these lines will keep confusion from slowing things down in the mind.
It is important to realize that many different levels of expertize exist with the members of VirDr and this is why any one who reads this and has a comment or a suggestion or a question, should not be afraid to jump in.
One thing that we would like to hear is your personal thoughts on the componets that are talked about that you are using. Is it good or bad and why. This can save money also for others.
Note: As these people on this thread have helped others so you can probably too. Everyone have a great day. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
HELLO! HELLO! Hello!...
IS ANYBODY HERE? HERE? Here?
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What type of VOM would be good for the workbench or is a continuity checker all that is needed?
Not a soul.
AHA! Lurking in the shadows, eh greengoose1?
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Sounds like you're wanting to get into some real serious computer work there. (VOM and continuity checker are one and the same actually). It's really not necessary for building a computer; but can come in handy
for serious troubleshooting.
Hey, was just reading a review on cases and it sparked my memory on a detail about power supplies. Make sure the ps is "ATX 2.01 compliant" (most new ones are, but if it's store-bought, it might be old stock). Afew years ago, someone came up with the "brilliant" idea to have ATX ps's draw air IN the case, cooling the ps while exhausting onto the CPU chip to keep IT cooler also---called it ATX 2 Standard. Turned out to be a BAAAAAD idea. Not only drew dust into the case, but the warmer air really didn't do so much to cool the system down---just circulated warm air inside the case. So out came ATX 2.01 versions---draws warm air OUT of the case that still cools the ps. (Lots of folks were just getting into their ps's and reversing the fan(s)---those sneaky devils...).
So check carefully those cases (or if buying the ps separately)--make sure the ad/box indicates ATX 2.01 compliance.
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You are right. I should have explained. The continuity checker I meant has two leads and a neon bulb. Use on AC, cars, etc. Sorry
Glad you rememered on PS.
Oh, don't be sorry. Legit question. Some "build-it" sites mention using voltimeters, etc. for checking the parts as you build--usually written by knowledgable techs who, in my opinion, "forget" the majority of their audience are non-technical and "just wanna build it"; not do high-tech surgery on it https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
"Scalpel"...."clamp"..."clamp"..."voltimeter"..."anti-static sponge"....**!..."I'm sorry, Mrs. Johnson, but the vid card was a bleeder...couldn't save it...could we use some of the chips for transplants?"
All the tools you'll need are what's already mentioned. If later on, you get real serious about PC TroubleShooting, there's books and courses galore that will teach you the electronics side of the house.
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ (I'm not "scolding" you here https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ nor trying to discourage you. If you're interested, by all means pursue it).
You notice the echos in here? Oh well. be back in a bit.
I'm just waiting for QOH's report on her "window shopping"....
You don't think she began impulse buying?
At a computer store in Dallas area, a WD30.0GB Ultra DMA/100 Hard Drive, 8.9ms seek time, 2MB Buffer, 7200RPM, 3.5"x1", 3yr warranty, bare drive only for $129.
greengoose1
OK on price, by ads up here, by 20 less https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Shoes and matching purse.....and the belt of course.
Fine Corinthian leather
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You didn't think I was dumb enough to take my money with me.....did you ? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
I did find several of the items on my list. One place could order what they didn't have.
Nobody could match the prices on line. In fact one guy wanted to know where I had gotten those prices (looking at me incredulously https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ ) The prices in () are what you guys found on line. These are as low as I could find in the windows.
WD hard drive 139.00 (125.00)
Enlight case 79.00 (55.00)
128MB RAM 89.00 (43.00)
Intel Pentium 800mhz 259.00 (176.00)
Mothermoard Abit BX 133 RAID (socket370) 195.00 (150.00)
GeForce2 based Video card 329.00 (105.00)
No oreos?
Queen_of_Hearts
Where did you locate the memory.
That is 1/2 price.
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I also had meant to go by and visit with an acquaintence who's deep into computers...and was also deep in trouble with the FBI https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ (not any more....no proof https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ )
Anyway, I did all I could in what little time I had today. I will visit with him, and one other person who might have more sources than I found, before I decide for sure which way to go.
Oreos ? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
512 MB - 8,191 MB uses 4 KB cluster
8,192 MB - 16,383 MB uses 8 KB
16,384 MB - 32,767 MB use 16 KB
32,768 MB and above use 32 KB
Now if you have a 1K file going into the cluster, [How much wasted space would have left in that cluster] This what a lot of folks talk about when they refer to wasted space on a hard disk. As you can tell from the chart a 20 and a 30GB hard drive would use 16KB clusters.
This food for thought is just that and as you have been talking about Partitioning,
it might help you.
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That is to be corrected.
The correction is
RC Cola and Moon Pie https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Train,
bistro posted it on page two yesterday.
Train,
Do ya think I've been sittin' on the porch watching the cars go by all day .....speculatin'!!! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
I've been busy !! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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I call window shopping like that bouncing off the walls that is what I do. All that pretty stuff, drooooolllll.
sure the feelings mutual.
If he posted it, I will find it. Need to keep tabs at those prices.
Kind of follow up on fdisk.
Doc's FDISK guide
http://radified.com/Doc/fdisk.htm
Between the ones we have now hope it will make sense to me. New territory https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
bistro
Could one use a 95 machine to do this as long as they used the correct 98 boot floppy for the final machine to receive harddisk.Got ask this by a fellow employee after telling him about Diskcopy.
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Train: In a word....nope. (Making supper for my family--STOP--kinda busy--STOP--was just checking in real quick--STOP--will get back in a little while--STOP--OK, I'll STOP now).
EDIT: (doing a lot of these edits lately...)
Taking a real quick break here...I may have to recant on the "nope" above. In fact, yes, you can do that, but on a 95 machine using the 95 startup disk--do not try to use a 98 on a 95. That's just after a real quick scan of the link you gave. I'll read it more thoroughly in a while. Later.
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Ok...been a long time since having to use a 95 boot disk, but if memory serves me correctly, it's slightly different from the 98 in that it doesn't have the CD-ROM support that the 98 has, and you MUST use the command format c: /s when formatting to make the partition active (98 boot disk does this "automatically" upon a prompt). On that site, there is a link to Bootdisk.com---that's a fairly well known, handy-dandy site. Has a download to make a customized boot disk that'll work for 95 through ME. Never used it myself, but have heard from others it works like a charm. Train, I'd steer your friend to that particular download to make his boot disk---rather than the "standard" 95 boot disk--probably would have greater success with it.
(But have the standard 95 boot disk on hand anyway).
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