shiva_42--As far as I am concerned, and think I reported a reasonably long time ago with no response, left-clicking New Posts or Search never gives an accurate result.
Try right click|Open in New Window.
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shiva_42--As far as I am concerned, and think I reported a reasonably long time ago with no response, left-clicking New Posts or Search never gives an accurate result.
Try right click|Open in New Window.
Hey Jim:Quote:
Originally Posted by Welshjim
I WAS right-clicking and opening in a new window. This whole thing is really getting annoying. I'm a die-hard fan, and I'm not going anywhere... but had the system worked this way when I first became involved with VDr, I'd have jumped ship pretty quickly.
I hope some progress is being made. Today, it's slower than ever for me, especially on any database access, and the whole "click here to expand" is really REALLY getting on my last nerve.
That being said, there's no place I'd rather hang, I just wish these complaints would be resolved.
The speed issue is being worked on. I plan to do some database maintenance which may help. The search functions are native to the software.
not that my voice matters (it's all about the ad $$$,) but the slowness is too much to bother visiting here anymore. i'll probably check back in a few months.
Oh.... I think your voice matters. It's just that there are so few around anymore to answer. ;-) See ya in a few months or now and again...
I have had a dial-up connection to the internet since about 1994. Up until 2002, I was always able to connect with my 56K modem at 44 - 46K. Suddenly, overnight I was connecting at 24 - 26K. My sister lives a couple of blocks from me and the same thing happened to her dialup connection.
I started checking with some of the telecom experts, who are members of the North Texas PC Users Group and discovered that SBC had contracted to have software written to split the bandwidth on dialup connections. They cut the bandwidth in half but they continued to charge the full rate for their dialup service unless a customer protested, then they would reduce your rate.
In the drive for bigger and bigger profits, the major ISPs are cutting corners in terms of bandwidth and the hardware resources needed for the internet's backbone. This includes sufficient routers and servers to handle the traffic. Just think how much email traffic has grown over the same timeframe. 80% of the email traffic that I receive now is SPAM. That SPAM eats up a lot of bandwidth and server resources.
Combine that email & SPAM growth with demand for bigger and bigger profits, then it is not hard to imagine that there are bottlenecks in terms of both routers and servers. It is also true that these "turds" that fill our inboxes are constantly changing which servers or series of servers are sending out these millions and millions pieces of SPAM. So a router that is a bottleneck at 3 AM today may not be the bottleneck at 4 AM today.
The major internet providers may also be operating with insufficient hardware resources to support the growth of internet traffic for their portion of the internet backbone. Who is to say that there are more of these games being played on all of us? It takes time to build a case for this.
This may or may not be a problem that VDR can solve.
Just thought I would add this additional perspective.
Cheers,
Linda
;) :rolleyes: :cool:
A nice post Linda, and I keep forgetting about the spam problem and how much volume there is. The VirDr delay is a steady constant problem though. And if it were QWest I would have thought JM would have resolved it by now with them.
GreenGoose,
What happens if the problem is QWest, SBC and virtually all of the major ISPs? I think that the real reason that so many of the ISPs started using SPAM filters is because the overwhelming increase in SPAM was driving their internet backbone hardware costs to unbelievable levels.
How would VDR or anyone solve a problem, if the problem is caused by an internet backbone, which does not have sufficient hardware resources to handle the current traffic loads?
Thanks for the compliment GreenGoose.
Linda
;)
You welcome. At least we would know the cause even if VirDr could not do anything about it. This is an issue that will not go away. The problem if too big for might just be able to be solved by all participants. If they are in denial because they don't want there customers to lose confidence the players only delay a solution.
Those that follow the WWWeb were aware many moons ago that this was a potential web threatening problem. We now see more and more sporadic slow downs randomly in different sections of the country.
People need to be aware of this so complaints can be voiced and directed where they need to be.
I believe that 80% or more of computer users are 100 % vulnerable to the fall out from these goings on.
This is a vast and complex issue encompassing us all. And by that I mean anyone connected to the web- be it vendor or user. Computers have become so powerful and widespread that those few wishing to harm the majority can and will.
I've found that bookmarking www.discussions.virtualdr.com and bypassing the start page speeds things up for me. The start page takes exactly 18 seconds to load for me. Almost as if it's on a timer of some kind. The ads load first(a few seconds)then everything sits for the remainder of the 18 seconds.
A number of our sites are exhibiting this behavior, and they're not on the same server. We're doing everything we can to try and track it down.
That is what I did too. Was not anything on that start page, I needed anyway. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jmtjet
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmtjet
Is it just me, or does this link fail?
You're not alone....failed for me too.
poppy
Yeah there's no www in the actual address, just http://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Sorry folks. I didn't copy and paste the address for Discussions, just typed it in.
I believe I have always used the method first posted by jmtjet and mentioned by others.
Well I don't know if this has anything to do with speed problems on VDr, but a couple of the forums I visited today didn't have the "click here to expand" BS on them and the pages loaded remarkably fast. I was also able to navigate back to the forum index at great speed. Tooo much BS on the forum pages, maybe?????
I'm currently working on a client machine ... It's a PII 233 with 64meg of RAM and a 1.3gig hard drive ... on dial-up. Not that it has a great deal to do with the price of tea in China... but you don't know the meaning of the word SLOW! ;-)
And for those of you out there that run on the above mentioned machine types on a regular basis, I salute you for your patience!
Not likely. That function is just a bit of text, maybe 1-2 lines worth. Wouldn't slow down anything. And it doesn't do anything until you click so the running of the function isn't slowing anything. It's not running during page load.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Steven
How can we continue to knock something that is FREE!!!
Sure, there are times when some facets are a bit slower but we all manage to get "there". There are slow downs on one other forum I visit but it, also, always come through.
Abhoth's words brings home the now painful days of delay when all we had was dialup!!
Hey, perhaps we aren't really complaining---just maybe we are only wanting to continue being one of the best forums on the web----and with good speed. :D
Even though I bit** about the speed, I totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by buf
The speed has been awfully disgusting.
http://softplaza.biglobe.ne.jp/text/...nme_95logo.jpg
People still finding the forum slow?
Yes, for the first time, I had a page lock up in the download process. This happened twice.
Linda
Wow, it's fast as heck right now for me. You find it slow now?
The only real thing happening when i visit to do with speed is expected as it is when i open a lot of posts, when i've been out all day and come home, i check the new posts and because i use a tabbed browser (avant) i open all the new posts at the same time usually a full line of open links on avant, and then i notice upload decrease, this is probably due to avant opening each page in order and it starts to trip over its own tangled mess and slows up, but i expect this really trying to open 10+ links in this browser, so i have nothing to report. :)
Liam
:D I noticed that speed increase just then........and i liked it.
Liam
Wow, check the speed of the homepage now! http://www.virtualdr.com/
Yep, that was a boost.
Liam
Two different servers?
Two different servers isn't it?
virtualdr.com = 63.236.73.204
discussions.virtualdr.com = 63.236.73.201
The forum was moved, yes.
JPnyc--Definitely faster for me now.
JP---very pleasing to the nerves/eyeballs to be fast again.
Many thanks for the hard work---by all involved. :D
Just to satisfy our morbid technical curiosity, what exactly was the final solution?
We moved this forum to another server.
Why?
What did you identify as the problem, since this affected multiple servers, etc.?
Well we just decided to throw hardware, and thus money, at the problem. Seems to have worked. In the end I think it was a traffic vs. resources issue.
Well it's certainly much faster now, thanks for the results. But, I find it slightly disconcerting that no "cause" was actually identified. This is a technically oriented support "forum" after all, and a little more information would really be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
After seeing all the discussion concerning what it "wasn't", I'd just like to know what it "was"... see?
Seems like a server was changed out from what I have heard. :)
But this morning about 10:00am CST I could not even get into the home page. The page would not even start to open. Anyone else see this?
None of the other sites I visit and had up had any problem. That rules out my computers but which server was down I wonder. Very strange.