:D
I was so proud of myself managing to resist.
Besides, I`ve told everyone who asked me if I had Vista that I was waiting a bit to see how others were getting on with it.
I don`t want :o (yet!)
Well done on getting yours up and running.
Elaine
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I was so proud of myself managing to resist.
Besides, I`ve told everyone who asked me if I had Vista that I was waiting a bit to see how others were getting on with it.
I don`t want :o (yet!)
Well done on getting yours up and running.
Elaine
There are certain instances in which a person might not be able to install over an existing copy of XP or 2000.
"For example, say you own a PC from one of the name brands that only shipped with a hidden recovery partition but no CDs. (Several well-publicized class-action lawsuits were filed against these companies over this practice.) You are eligible for the upgrade, and so you purchase and install it. Three months from now, your hard drive fails. You cannot re-install your previous verson of XP — first, because you have no recovery CDs and, second, your recovery partition was lost with the hard drive failure."
Makes sense, but not cents so they hide it.
I deleted the whole folder, without any harm. I wouldn't of upgraded this way if that wasn't possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by nganvu
I'm proud of you too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dunedin
Wouldn't it of been nice if all of us in the UK could get together and refuse to buy Vista, until it's price was brought down to the US price. It'll never happen though, too many mugs like me :mad:
I wish we could get everyone to do that. We have a heavyweight on our side. :)
Bill Gates was in Scotland recently to promote a project he is supporting to give training to unemployed youngsters (his Foundation, not MS).
There was a news report when he met our First Minister.
He touched on Vista and actually said that it should be the same price all over the world.
Elaine
He's a bit of fibber :(Quote:
Originally Posted by dunedin
Nvangu, as long as you don't intend to revert to the previous version of Windows then there is no problem with deleting Windows.old. It's only there to allow you to roll back.
Elaine, is your copy of XP an OEM copy (you have a Dell don't you?). If it is, then you would be better off buying OEM Vista IMO. That would legally allow you to dual boot with XP, and there seems little point in buying an upgrade version of Vista if the previous OS is OEM, as you won't be legally entitled to transfer it to another machine in the future anyway.
Home Premium OEM is around £62.
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10339
SuperSparks, as a matter of interest how would you roll back, to your previous O/S?
Try this, it is legal because the methods is hard wired into Vista.
Creat a new partition or use a slave drive.
Install Vista but DO NOT add the product code. This will give you a 30 day trial version of Vista installed.
No reinstall Vista over it but choose the Upgrade option and this time add the product key.
The licence allows this as it states Vista upgrade requires a previous installaion of windows 2000, xp or vista.
For further details refer to the article "Get Vista upgrade, never pay full price" at http://www.windowssecrets.com/
We've already discussed that at some length on this forum. And it is in clear breach of the EULA to install an upgrade version without a qualifying OS. MS included that facility in the full knowledge that it could be abused by some - that does not make it "legal" to do so. In any case what is legal in one country may not be legal elsewhere, so I don't think anyone should be making sweeping statements about what is legal and what isn't.
Read the second part of that article that I linked to in Post #26 above.
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I'd like to acknowledge a couple of readers who wrote that it might be unethical to install the Vista upgrade without having purchased a previous version of the product. I agree. The clean-install method should only be used by people who did purchase a copy of XP or 2000, but can't install the Vista upgrade over their copy for some legitimate reason (as described in the next section, below).
Nick,
Thanks for replying. Sorry, but I did not make it clear what my dilemma is.
I`m trying to decide whether to go for the OEM Upgrade or the Retail version. I am concerned that the "workaround" will be abused, as discussed above, and that MS will close that option. I want to keep XP....hence my problem. I`m leaning towards the Retail version just as insurance.
What do you think?
I did have a Dell, but a few months ago with Vista in mind, I treated myself to a high spec Alienware and it is a wonderful machine. It came with an XP installation CD and no junk at all installed. The Dell is still in the family so I suppose I do still have it since I`m left to maintain it. :)
Elaine
There is no OEM Upgrade version, you can only get the OEM Full version or a Retail Upgrade version. Because you can't legitimately transfer your OEM WinXP disc from the Alienware to another machine in the future, should you wish to, you will also have no legitimate upgrade path for the Vista Upgrade DVD either. So it makes more sense to me to buy an OEM version, which is cheaper than the Retail Upgrade version, and will legally allow you to dual-boot with XP as well. Admittedly the Vista disc is tied to that machine, but as the qualifying OS is anyway, you aren't any worse off.
Thanks Nick,
I don`t know why I wrote "OEM Upgrade", I just meant Upgrade.
The OEM Full version would give me a clean install and I would never be in any danger of losing XP. I would never want to transfer Vista anyway so it makes more sense than buying the Retail version
Had a look at prices
Komplett
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Eng OEM DVD 32bit £62.00
Amazon UK
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium OEM/OEI DSP - 32-bit Edition (PC DVD) £81.99
Can you tell me please what OEM/OEI DSP is?
Thanks
Elaine
I think the OEI might stand for "Original Equipment Integrator". The DSP bit I have no idea about, and neither does anybody else, it seems. I'll see if I can find out from my MS sources.
DSP = Delivery Service Partner.
AFAIK MS get to charge the partners more for the OS, and then the support starts and ends with that partner.(I'll let someone else confirm)
Liam