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That one thing id be pretty miffed about, it just show how much the internet plays a part in my life:(Quote:
Originally posted by techallenged
Plus, with adsl if I wanna change I'm gonna be offline for at least 9 days while one service is deactivated and reactivated with a new ISP..
Well I reckon if I took a 14 day break to Spain while is was being changed I could live with it, but I really fancy Hi Velocity on their (supposed) performance levels.. but looking at a month or so ..... no I couldn't live with that.
Same boat as you bud, internet plays to big a part... rightly or wrongly.. !!!!
Phil
Neh, you dont wanna go to spain, not with scorching heatwave we're gonna get this year:rolleyes:
Just to bring things back to the topic for a sec...
The press release did say that the ads would be delivered in the the same text only style that the search engine uses, right? So my guess is that the ads won't be delivered as spam (i.e. new messages in your inbox) but as sidebar items, just like on the search results page. As such, there'd be no need to delete them, they're just part of the page.
The whole issue of having every message I send or receive crawled by a Goolgle-bot raises some concerns about privacy, but then, that's part of the service. "You want the gig? You agree to let us read your mail." So, knowing they're going to read it removes any "reasonable expectation of privacy" re:you e-mail. Therefore, no invasion of privacy.
Frankly, I've got nothing to hide, so let 'em crawl through my e-mail all they want. For a gig of on-line storage, I'd say it's worth it. Show me where the line to sign up forms!
:D :D First Laugh of the Day!!:D :DQuote:
Originally posted by shiva_42
Heck, I already get all that c**p email, might as well have a full gigabyte to store it in...
;)
how much does it cost google to give away a free gig?
Well this beats me,with all those emails that I might receive from friends and clients in my box,with attached spam,is not what I want,I have spam removers and such filters I have set to block this nonsense.Don't forget all those million or so people that are always complaining about spam,so it means mail that incorporates spam will be deleted by my spam mail filters,tough luck to those that send it...:D :D
The real question is, how much will google earn from this whole story. Don't think for a second that they are paying for the gig. Its being paid for all the nice Viagra companies out there advertising next to all your emails :)Quote:
Originally posted by steppenwolf
how much does it cost google to give away a free gig?
Well, I think its a great idea anyway. Like DougJ said, where do I sign up?
Sorry, but I don't see what the fuss is about. It's not like they're doing anything behind people's back. They state right up front that they'll be crawling your e-mail. They do this so they 1) can tailor ads to be delivered to you, and 2) allow you to also search through all your email without having to occasinally purge.Quote:
Of course they're not doing this for free. Google's a business, they're in it for profit. To bash them for not taking a financial hit (i.e. not truly giving it away for free) is just short-sighted.
As I said previously, to me, the privacy issue in this case is moot. Its an elective service. Nobody's holding a gun to anyone's head. Its our choice. If we don't want them to crawl our e-mail, we don't sign up for the service. The gig of storage isn't "free", it the "product" we're paying for by agreeing to have our mail crawled. As with everything else in a free market, if the price is too high, just don't buy the product!
I've used Google for almost as long as they've been around. I think they have a stellar track record for delivering a valuable, high quality service. With the push for them to go public, I really don't think they'd jeopardize their reputation by suddenly delivering an endless barrage of V*I*A*G*R*A ads. I think (trust) they'll do it right. And if they don't , then I jhust stop using the service. Again, I still have a choice.
So I ask again, what's all the fuss about? Sign me up!!!
Keep your cool Doug, it wont be long now:DQuote:
Originally posted by dougj
So I ask again, what's all the fuss about? Sign me up!!!
dougj
QUOTE..So I ask again, what's all the fuss about? Sign me up!!!
One thing is for certain,"hopefully" your mail should not get through my filters,as I don't want it,or any one Else's with spam in it..:D :D http://www.deceiver.org/pic/spam.gif
Gmail seems innocuous enough, but there are two things to consider:
First, Google has amassed a huge database of information concerning searches, queries etc. through the use of non-expiring cookies. That has people concerned enough, but now the email service can (and likely will) allow them to now link that "anonymous" data with an actual personal identity. There are users out there that never flush their cookies, and may not realize that google has been tracking their search requests for years.
Second, your emails may be retained indefinitely, even after you delete them. Why? May not seem like a big deal, but down the road do you like the idea of an organization having a catalogue of people you communicate with, discussions you've had, services subscribed to etc.?
I also have a third, but it's more speculative (and maybe a bit paranoid) on my part. ISP's are more or less absolved of responsibility for monitoring the traffic flowing through their networks, providing them a shield of legal indemnity. The catch is that if ISP's start monitoring their networks for some particular type of questionable or illegal content, then they're expected to monitor for everything and are held responsible for the traffic travelling on their networks. This type of protection prevents an organization like the RIAA from going after ISP's for allowing copyrighted material to be transferred among their subscribers.
If a soon-to-be-public organization like google has the technology in place to scan everyone's email for keywords with the right to do so granted by the users via the user agreement, it makes me wonder about the ability of agencies (government or private a la RIAA) to force Google through legal means to scan for questionable content. I'm not sure they'd be protected by the same don't ask-don't tell immunity ISP's have. I'm not a privacy expert or a lawyer, and I am a law abiding citizen (for the most part ;) ) but it still gives me cause for concern.
Anyways, I'm not slagging google, I use their services countless times in a day (although I flush my cookies regularly). I just think that in this day and age of digital technology and privacy issues, people need to be aware that something isn't necessarily what it seems to be.
(stepping of soap box now...)
Just my $0.02...
KV
Here's another one. Like Google's new service, Spymac is offering 1GB of storage.
"Unlike GMail, which will be supported by advertising, Spymac mail has no advertising, the posting says. In addition, Spymac offers customers POP3 access to e-mail accounts so users can get their e-mail through popular e-mail clients such as Microsoft's Outlook."
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...040604X,00.asp
Guess it all depends on who/what you want to believe? Like the definition of the original 'SPAM'. Believeitornot's pic says 'chopped pork and ham'. Aren't pork and ham the same thing? Then there's the original definition of the product= (S)cientifically (P)reserved (A)nimal (M)atter. :eek: :p :D