Oh boy! :D That's often a pretty good indicator that a) they don't know, or b) they don't want to deal with it. ;) So we'll have to continue to see what happens.Quote:
and they don't seem all that anxious to tell me
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Oh boy! :D That's often a pretty good indicator that a) they don't know, or b) they don't want to deal with it. ;) So we'll have to continue to see what happens.Quote:
and they don't seem all that anxious to tell me
Well I bumped the thread once and they were a little perturbed at that.
I appreciate you efforts JP. Keep us posted.
Any update on this issue???
Bump...
they've never responded to my thread since, so there's not a whole lot I can do with this one. I tried bumping it and they let it fall off the page again. I've removed coding elements that weren't in keeping with the current doctype, thinking that might improve it, even though IE has never been anything close to fussy about standards, or even compliant with them, but apparently that hasn't made any difference either or you'd have said something .
Appreciate your efforts on the JP. So what can or needs be done to bring it to perhaps these people's (the ones doing the ignoring) higher ups that they are not responding here? Surely someone might care when some people in the organization just decide to ignore both the customers and one of their own (ie. you).
Well I bumped it again, but like I said, they responded to someone else with an IE 5.5 issue by saying "upgrade to 6", so I don't know what I can expect out of em.
Thanks for bumping. If they get annoyed again then tell 'em simply that some users (at least one) on vdr is not thrilled with the "ignore problems till the users give up approach". Invite them to come down and post what they have to say rather than trap you in the middle.
If their final position is "ie 5.x is not supported", then fine. That's nonsense and comes off as more the sign of someone who just doesn't want to work a problem (or know how to), but fine. If that's the way they want it then it seems reasonable to that vdr just needs to somewhere let people know what browsers they support.
Well 5.5 is supported. You can read the threads and post to them with it. All you cannot do is see the list of posts when using standard reply. However with quick reply they're obviously visible. That wouldn't be sufficient to say the browser isn't supported. We could make an argument that it isn't fully supported, however.
Semantics there JP. Either one can use the board "normally" with a given browser or not.
The problem here is that it can be demonstrated that IE 5.5 is capable of producing the proper results (display), but their code/templates as they exist are such that it does not. This is just not a problem they wish to or feel is worth correcting. Fine, then they just should say so. I repeat, I appreciate your position as well as your efforts, and am not aiming my critism at you JP. But I didn't just fall of the proverbial turnip truck yesterday when it comes to operational issues (as loosely as this is in that domain). I know the games played. And this seems to be one of the classic ones.
Doc, if you click on the "Display Mode" button in the upper right, is it set to Linear Mode?
Yes indeed Steve, I am in Linear mode (and that's my default CP setting).
I know you posted the source code, which I asked for, but have any of you posted a screen shot of this yet? I'm just curious to see what you're seeing, exactly
tried to upload the picture of 'nothing' showing after "Topic Review ( newest first)", and it is over the limit...."File Too Large. Exceeds PHP's limit of 2.00 MB. ".......poppyQuote:
Originally Posted by JPNYC
edit: here is a zip file of it......hope this works.
But is it literally nothing or is there a blue bar there, or anything else? I dunno where to find a version of 5.5 to test with. Also might mess up my IE installation, which I can't afford to have happen either.
Can someone email me a screenie then? [email protected]
JP check my edit with the zip file...can you open it?
poppy
edit: also sent to your email JP.
Does anything happen if you click that little button to the right, with the 2 arrow symbols in it?
Here's a screen capture also of the are being effected...
Nothing happens when those symbols/buttons are clicked.
When I say nothing happens I mean nothing in terms of the prior posts appearing or not. There is a change to some other screen areas showing at the page bottom. But nothing related to this particular issue.
when clicking the two arrows the bottom of the page comes up to the 'Topic Review" Bar.....and when clicking again the 'empty space' returns....but the posts are not there, just blank space.
JP,
Just as an FYI I'm attaching a zip file that contains an example of the saved contents (code and such) that gets generted under IE 5.5 during a reply. If you unzip it (it will go to a folder called IE5.5Folder) and then run the internet shortcut in there in an IE 6 browser you will see exactly what we see (and have the code that is producing it, which is different than the code when IE6 is being used).
Yeah, I already know that thanks. That's not the issue. It's entirely appropriate and intentional that 5.5 should be served different code. The issue is what in this particular page is it choking on. If the browser sniffer was commented out, 5.5 might become unusable altogether.
Well as I said earlier on, if I capture (save) the same stuff from within an IE6 browser, then run that through an IE5 browser all is well/normal.
But you're looking at one page and one function. You don't know what else is functioning normally now that may break if that sniffer is removed. There are a hundred templates to this site, any one or several of which could malfunction as a result.
Understood, and not saying that isn't necessarily the case. I'm simply focusing on the portion of the code (in the case of both browsers) that gets generated that is effecting this.