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Originally posted by usil
You can delete you own thread if your started it, can't you?
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YupQuote:
Originally posted by usil
You can delete you own thread if your started it, can't you?
I have done that per request, many a time by thread authors.Quote:
Originally posted by Fuelm@n
I personally wish that I had the option to closes threads that I started. I also see no need to continue a thread as open when an answer has been provided in it and the author so states that...
Some threads go round and round and round and am glad when a moderator closed it, wish I could have done it myself. :p
What CHANNEY (sp?) was asing for was for some adult(s) to fill out a questionaire not create or help to create the questionaire. I have read the thread several times to check, double check and redouble check to make sure I'm correct here. Like KatMac (sp?) I didn't respond as I didn't feel I fit within his criteria or I would have responded in the affirmative to his request. I realize all the mods have demands on their time and having to actually read an entire post rather than assume that previous response from another moderator was correct but if they actually did a proper response might actually be yeilded.Quote:
Originally posted by photolady
This is not directed to to only photolady but to all mods. I use this quote to demonstrate my position. No offence is intended either willingly or implied so don't take any. If you can't, in the words of our Admin "LIVE IWTH IT." :D
For THE MICK:To THE MICK: on the post by the student. If we gave him the questions for his survey then in essence we are doing his homework for him. These questions are supposed to come from his own thinking not that of others. So, what DELTREE told him was in compliance with our user agreement.
Case in point.
I started a thread recently titled "Are you happy with your search engine." I prefaced the thread with 2 articles from internet news related websites showing that I am not alone with a growing disatisfaction for Google's burgeoning diversification when their principle meaning for existance was becoming a pale reflection of what it started out to be. Several of our precious moderators saw fit to provide me with a tutorial of how best to search using Google.
If the mods don't have enough time or can't be bothered to spend enough time to read the post in its entirety I would propose that there is either a need for more moderators or perhaps a need to clean house.
Where do i send the application form:DQuote:
Originally posted by Calpitor
I would propose that there is either a need for more moderators or perhaps a need to clean house.
Just make everyone a Moderator, with Moderator powers, now that would be funny stuff, people editing other peeps post, and chaos and lawlessnes reign!:D
Now that would be something to see:)
Calpitor, I read the whole post that Channy posted. It still sounds like he wants us to do his homework for him. He states he can't use technicians as a lot of us here are that lets us out of the equation.
And if everyone was a moderator, then there'd be no VDR because of this type issue it would soon be closed.
We seem to be getting bogged down in piece meal details not relevant to the original post :
BitTorrent is a P2P piece of software whatever its design it is much used for the piracy of software as are other P2P applications thus they contravene the forum rules to discuss in detail.
Moderators are chosen by their willingness to help others on this forum and usually with no repayment for their time spent here and very seldom get a nod,wink or thank you from those same people.Quote:
Is is possible for the moderators to stand back for five seconds
Working in an environment long enough can sometimes give you second sight as to whats going on and I'm sure no offence is intended when a thread is closed but it is for the good of the forum as a whole to continue this way.
There are several hundred forums accessible out on the internet.
This particular one is FREE to access,with members giving their own free time attempting to answer computer related questions but it has an applied set of rules governed by those who pay for its upkeep.
As has been said already you are free to come and go but if you stay you live by the rules applied.
I believe Bart Simpson would have a good retort to end the response but I am not he.
Howdy:
I've been here for a short time and the one thing I have noticed when compared to other forums I belong to is the willingness of the Mod to close a thread that they feel may end up headed in the wrong direction (ie: KaZaa and BitTorrent or any P2P sharing programs)..
Guess you could say I am one of the closed-minded as I take BJ's stance on most of these.. I see a thread requesting help with any P2P program and I either leave it alone or, I use an option that anyone has on another site I go to, I "Red-Flag" it .. This then allows a Mod on that site to check the post to see if it meets the sites requirements or not..
As for the RIAA not suing anyone for down-loading music, whomever posted that should talk to the 12 year old that was sued and settled for a $2000 fine for downloading copywritten material.. (songs)..
Murray
You read it? It doesn't appear so. He was looking for someone to interview.Quote:
Originally posted by photolady
Calpitor, I read the whole post that Channy posted. It still sounds like he wants us to do his homework for him. He states he can't use technicians as a lot of us here are that lets us out of the equation.
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Originally posted by Channy
Anyone ?!?!
The project is too interview a working adult, i need help from someone who is a working adult and has a job involving some sort of technology.
I need some help off you's !!
This can't be done just by surfing the internet. hope someone can help, thanks !!!!!
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Originally posted by Channy
The report I' need to write is on Information And Communication Technology.
i will need to know how you use differnet kinds of technology (any), in your profession and personal use. (You don't need to tell me things or pieces Of ICT, u don't want to share)
But I hope I can get some detailed answers on how it affects your working and personal-home uses.
Hope I was in enough detail above, and also hope someone out there can help me.
Thanks !
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Originally posted by Channy
The report will be written by me and not by any volunteers.
I am just doing a kind of survey but sometimes i might need to ask you some more questions to get a much more detailed answer.
I don't think it will take too much of anyones time, it would sometimes just be a few short answers, sometimes a little longer for detail.
But the report Is written by me. hope you's can help. Thanks
How does that sound like he's asking for someone to do his work for him? He was looking for people to take part in his survey. Creating, performing, culminating results then creating a report from surveys was and is part of a business related curriculum.
As far as everyone being a moderator please reread my post! Where did I suggest everyone be a moderator? I said that perhaps of the ones who are mods perhaps they are too taxed for time or they have become rather jaded.
"When you start reading inbetween the lines it is easy to lose sight of what was written.": Marshall McLuhan
Murray the people being sued are being sued for having music available for download, or in simpler terms the MP3s they downloaded remained in their shared folder available for all to download. If you think I'm splitting hairs it is only because it is there to be split. If you want a more clear explanation perhaps you should do a little more research on the subject.Quote:
Originally posted by Murray S.
As for the RIAA not suing anyone for down-loading music, whomever posted that should talk to the 12 year old that was sued and settled for a $2000 fine for downloading copywritten material.. (songs)..
Lets have a quick look.............Oh........seven reasonable replies to the question and still open for responses.....so.........perhaps theres still time for you to add you comment to the thread that your championing so much???
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/sho...hreadid=155445
As to P2P thats already been covered more than enough.
Put your wooden spoon away for another day.
I've got to agree with 104456. The mods here have to make judgement calls. Most of the time I agree with them, occasionally I don't - but I always respect their decision. In that respect the mods are like referees/umpires in a sporting match, they have to make a decision, ant that should be that (and if there's one thing that £$%^es me off, it's so-called "sportsmen" who whine and whinge every time the ref rules against them). The refs / mods decision is final.
I've never used any P2P apps myself, so I'm not in a position to help anyway. I honestly don't know how I feel about them either, they undoubtedly can be used legally, and undoubtedly they often aren't. But I think on the whole it would be best if we didn't deal with them, and said so in the AUP - that way we all know where we stand. Surely there are support forums for these P2P apps that people could go to for help?
Im sure there are too but we are not allowed to post such links :DQuote:
Originally posted by SuperSparks
Surely there are support forums for these P2P apps that people could go to for help?
Calpitor:
Maybe you should tell that to Fox News then as well as the other thousand or so news outlets that reported on it..
12-Year-Old Sued for Music Downloading
If you're one of the remaining 260 defendants targeted in lawsuits by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for music piracy on the Internet, don't count on being bailed out of your jam by P2P United.
The group, which represents major file-sharing sites on the Net, has pledged to pay the US$2,000 settlement in the case of a 12-year-old Manhattan honor student targeted by the RIAA for illegally downloading music .
Story HERE
Nuff said as this is going "off topic" !!
Murray
Probably the excuse some people are waiting for to say"there you are its closed again":DQuote:
Originally posted by Murray S.
Nuff said as this is going "off topic" !!
I believe all questions have been more than reasonably answered and dismissed with good reasonable logic so I see no further need at this time to respond within the confines of the question possed at the outset.
Do you really think that kid knew it was Illegal? probably not.Quote:
The group, which represents major file-sharing sites on the Net, has pledged to pay the US$2,000 settlement in the case of a 12-year-old Manhattan honor student targeted by the RIAA for illegally downloading music .
and how about that couple the RIAA tried to sue, and they didn't even have a computer! I'm getting tired of this RIAA fiasco! If they Keep up this Bull sh*t, I may move to CANADA, WHERE THERE IS NO RIAA.:mad:
Careful Oilpatch it's cold up here. While there isn't an RIAA we do have a toothless and clawless version though. They were firmly put in their place last month by our Supreme Court.
Oops there I go off topic again.
I would just like to suggest that there will be much less anguish and headache for everybody involved if the mod's will include a short one-liner to explain why a post/thread is being edited, closed or deleted.
Members get personal when their posts/threads are edited, closed or deleted b/c it is personal. Members who know what they post are "illegal" usually just go away quitely when they are "caught." No problems here. A lot of times, though, people just misunderstand each other. In such a case when a mod. edited, closed or deleted a post/thread w/o any explanation the member will feel slighted and disrespected. By including a short explanation you give the member a chance to clear things up. We all deserve the benefit of the doubt, don't we?
A lot of times members get angry not so much b/c a post/thread is edited, closed or deleted but more b/c they are assumed guilty without given a chance to depend themselves.
Not long ago one of my post got edited b/c a mod. thought that I was being rude. No explanation was offered in the thread and I felt disrespected b/c I was not being rude in my opinion (I sent a PM to BJ and he didn't think that I was rude either and he saw no reason for the mod to edit my post.) Had the mod. told me his reason for editing my post I would had simply post back to clear thing up instead of getting all angry.
People misunderstand each other all the time and we get angry with each other b/c we won't communicate.
Yet he didn't respond with his questionaire.Quote:
Originally posted by Calpitor
[B]What CHANNEY (sp?) was asing for was for some adult(s) to fill out a questionaire not create or help to create the questionaire. I have read the thread several times to check, double check and redouble check to make sure I'm correct here. Like KatMac (sp?) I didn't respond as I didn't feel I fit within his criteria or I would have responded in the affirmative to his request. I realize all the mods have demands on their time and having to actually read an entire post rather than assume that previous response from another moderator was correct but if they actually did a proper response might actually be yeilded.
/B]
He/she was trying it on, wanting for someone else to do it for him/her, being underhanded in each post and unfortunately I believe you may have fallen for it.
Is it not possible that being under pressure to get this completed on time he started to explore other avenues for answers? there are many reasons he could have stopped responding not least of which is being put off after being called a cheater, a plagerist (sp?) and a hack.
The main reason is we don't communicate in the correct manner and blame each other for not reaching a conclusion.Quote:
Originally posted by falcon2000
People misunderstand each other all the time and we get angry with each other b/c we won't communicate.
As I have said before, the next time a thread is closed and you are unable to understand why, ask.
Everyone gets critisised during their lifetime no matter what it may be and naturally that will put you under some pressure. However, when it happens and you know you are right you should say so and explain how you feel and exactly what you want or want to know, not run away with your tails between your legs because someone has not given the answer you wanted.Quote:
Originally posted by Calpitor
Is it not possible that being under pressure to get this completed on time he started to explore other avenues for answers? there are many reasons he could have stopped responding not least of which is being put off after being called a cheater, a plagerist (sp?) and a hack.
I agree with your most reasonable and mature response Jolly. Unfortunately we're talking about a school kid here. Our kind of thinking comes with age.
CalpitorQuote:
Originally posted by Calpitor
I agree with your most reasonable and mature response Jolly. Unfortunately we're talking about a school kid here. Our kind of thinking comes with age.
I'm not having a go at you but how did you and I learn, we were once kids and we learned the hard way, no internet, go out and learn, wasn't it.
Very much the truth. I say very much the truth. Good lord I sound like Fred Elliot. :) Mind you when I had to do surveys that couldn't be done through, or should I say with, family members it was a lot safer to talk to strangers for a whole lot of reasons.
I quite agree but, obviously he was too lazy to get off his butt and do it, the easy way was to sit in front of a comp. and let someone else do it for him.Quote:
Originally posted by Calpitor
Very much the truth. I say very much the truth. Good lord I sound like Fred Elliot. :) Mind you when I had to do surveys that couldn't be done through, or should I say with, family members it was a lot safer to talk to strangers for a whole lot of reasons.
I have three sons all in business together and when I ask them a arithmetical question they have to get a calcuator out. When I say you can work it out without a calculator my wife says ' why do you need to know' when you've got a machine to do it for you'.
The lot doesn't make sense to me.
That's my two pence worth anyway, I don't want a machine to control me, just help me when I need it.
I know I've gone off the thread but, reverting back:
If you want to know why a thread has been closed/locked, then ask.
and its goodnight from me and goodnight from him and may your god be with you.
True, but why is it SO DIIFICULT for the mod's to just include a tiny little one-liner? When a thread is closed without explanation a member can only ask by either starting a new thread (just to ask why) or PM the mod. Either way is no good. I just don't see why is it such a big deal for a mod. to write, "your post is edited/deleted because you've viloated this particular clause/phrase in the AUP."Quote:
Originally posted by TJolly
As I have said before, the next time a thread is closed and you are unable to understand why, ask.
If ya want to check the thread this whole thing is about, I did leave a reply to the author of the thread. BJ
LINK
To further what BJ said. When I close a thread I say why I'm closing it in the thread. Sometimes more than a one-liner. ;)
You are always good about that but, unfortuantely, I can't say this about some other mod's. :(Quote:
Originally posted by photolady
When I close a thread I say why I'm closing it in the thread. Sometimes more than a one-liner. ;)
Let me put it this way, the author of this thread had nothing whatsoever to do with the thread that was closed. That was the main reason I replied the way I did to begin with. If the poster of the thread had pm'd me & explained what he was doing. plead his case in other words, im more than a fair person & if he came up with a good argument I may have reconsidered, but low & behold I never heard a thing from that person. If any of you have the same issues I would recommend handling it this way & you will get a lot further with me instead of the way flachebag handeled it. BJ
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I believe all has been said that needs to be said so im putting this to rest now. BJ
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