what am I doing???? Its finally Friday and I start the day off already lost...
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what am I doing???? Its finally Friday and I start the day off already lost...
DrMDJ is right though. When you pre-plan, it's necessary to also plan the first pre-build step. Otherwise it's difficult to get to the second pre-plan build step. If you didn't plan the step or pre-plan the plan, whatever the plan was will fail, if the pre-plan building steps are not carefully planned as part of the pre-planning process.
Uh....exactly what is it again we are planning to build here?
8 days and counting down.....Are there any burning questions GG? How about inventory? Got enough mobo mounting screws, thermal paste, proper tools, etc.?
Going into the Metroplex this weekend to pick up the Thermal Paste. Going to visit Fry's and Best Buy. Maybe Micro Warehouse. Think I'm okay on screws and tools. Have added a 4lb sledge hammer as a problem solver. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Maybe we should set up an agenda conference on BT for the preplan to the preplan. ROFLOL. Youse guys!!!!! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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I figured I'd jump in this thread...it seems only 4 or 5 of you actually post here...kind of like your own little forum here, especially with a mod being here...
anyways, I have a question...who are you building this machine for?
also, since we are in the pre-preplan stages (errr, or was it pre-pre-preplan stages) whenever I build a PC, I always make sure I have a written agenda...no times..just what to do in sequence...
should we make one here? or am I getting ahead of myself?
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Hi zam1el, Actually there are more regular posters than that and the total amount fluctuates, usually depending on what we are talking about. There is building, indepth explanations on different subjects concerning components, and answering questions thereof. The 26th of October will start a third online real time computer build whose name will be BT in honor of the original two experts that helped start this ongoing thread. You are familiar with both Bistro and Train as I recall. The Delta Threads are now a year old and I would recommend going back and reading them if you have time. There is information that you would not find elsewhere. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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[This message has been edited by greengoose1 (edited 10-19-2001).]
I just mean, who is it being built for? who is going to keep the final product?
I would go back and read all that...but I've built PC's before...even though I'm sure there is stuff there I should read...I'm good https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
you said built in real time...are you reserving a chat channel somewhere? or using a webcam?
or does that just mean that you are going to install something, then post about it...
just trying to get specifics here...
I've always kept an eye on the threads, but never bothered to post...
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T-8 and counting. BT is on the pad. All systems go.
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GG1 is building his own computer and after a year of . . . . . and for his own personnal use.
Boy does he have the first build heeeby jeeebies. In spades no less https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Of course losing a hdd was a prompt for some reason. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Zam....I too have built several computers for both myself and customers as well...I have read through 26 of the 33 installments of the Original Delta and I learn something new from these guys every day....All of the Delta Crew know their stuff...some have more specialized areas of knowledge Like JtDoom (jaak) and then there are the ones that are just picking it up as they go...like QoH and Goose...who I have seen answer some very interesting posts both on this board and a few others...he has picked up alot over the past year. All that is left now is the practical build of BT because I am sure that goose has built his dream machine in his head every night for the past year since that first post of the original Delta and when October 26 comes around all that will be left is to mount the board and insert the cards into the appropriate slots and load the O.S. and start enjoying the fruits of the labor....because he has done all the hard work already. He has learned and became more knowledgeable than he was the first day he came here as we all have I am sure. <soap box is now open>
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sarrkazztic
The Gforce base video cards are more for gamer type stuff.
Might want to look at them as I believe they will walk circles around the Savage cards.
Forgot to mention this the other night.
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First-build Hebbe Jeebes?
I definitely have that. In fact its so bad that I never actually did it, I changed my mind about halfway. I don't have the money for parts anyhow. I've never spent more than $10 on a computer part (see below)
Computer stuff that I tried to do but didn't work:
- An RS-232 serial cable in attempt to use Direct Cable Connect to transfer files to my new computer, which did not work, continues to not work, and probably will never work. But I threw away the box, and it was a long time ago, so I can't return it.
- A Pentium Overdrive chip for $10 at a yard sale, which I tried to put in my 486 but it didn't work, just sat there and didn't show anything on the screen. The fan on the P-OD chip worked, but nothing else. I was able to put the old chip back thank god, but I can't remember what happened to the chip. I know I installed it right, I read the directions about a kazillion times (This was one of my first upgrade attempts)
- A CD-ROM (from my now-uncle after he upgraded--which of course went just fine and dandy) that I put on my 486. It's the most annoying thing because every once in a while it works, like once a month. Tried a new IDE ribbon for it ($6.95) but it still didn't work. I replaced it with another CD-ROM that I got in a computer from my aunt(another 486)
- The other CD-ROM worked okay for a while but it would only reconize the disc that was in it when it booted up, and was annoying in general. Then it caused the computer to lock up on startup, so I detached it.
- A 2GB Quantum drive I bought off of my brother for $10 didn't work. I tried installing it on my 486 but it turns out I need a SCSI controller card. The odds of me buying one are pretty slim https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Do you SEE why I might be a little teensey bit nervous about making my own comp?
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Train what is your opinion of This Card
That is the brand I had looked at. Looks good, but JAL is the ATI person in the forum.
Must admit it does look interesting though.
Also, know some of the ATI cards can use nvidia drivers. That is about all though.
Best I can do https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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No problem there, logowriter. Build-yourself systems using "yard sale" parts can be a real bear, and often turn out less than expected---not for the fainthearted. Believe me, I know from personal experience. Better to save up, get new, quality parts. Then, with a little homework/tutoring, building your own system can be a very good experience--and probably not quite a difficult as you may imagine--just takes a little studying.
Zam1el and logowriter, I was about to give up on computers when I found VirDr. Through the help I received, I was able to get my computer, a Compaq running, and then in talking with the Queen of Hearts we decided to build with Bistro's and Train's help. I was delayed money wise due to a family situation that came up, but the Queen of Hearts was not and she built and brought up a computer without a hitch with the help she received. Then Train built JR. Finally I was able to get the funds together and here we are. I had to wait a year but I had set a goal to do this. The Delta Threads have helped alot of people and more people are now building. We now keep the thread going to help others if and when they need it.
Sarkazztic - you said it well in your last post. Thank you. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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So it has been written in the Delta Chronicles, so shall it be done.
Good Morning All, Will be component shopping today in the Metroplex. Will be back tonight. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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GG1, you buying a metroplex?
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what about simplex, complex, and maybe even duplex.
what do simplex and complex mean in regard to cdromdrives?
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Good Morning All,
Jaak, https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/. ROFLOL. I will try to answer. Simplex, in computer language indicates something is single channel. Duplex would be two channels, and complex would be where everything was housed.
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Sooo,,Goose...Are you getting a Mid tower? orr,,Full tower Complex??? (heh-heh,,just couldn't resist) https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Don't let the teeny boppers run you over at the multiplex... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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You guys are Complex....
As in obsessed https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Kinda jealous..... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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It's either that or it's into the woodchipper
gg1,
How did your shopping go over in the MetroPlex? Everything ok or did you get perplexed?
https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ OPOVET2 https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ ake Opovet
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LOL you guys are to much. Ridgernr, a mid tower Inwin S500.
Stevrey, don't be. You can join in.
Opovet2, This is only my second trip to the metroplex for components as I live two hours away. Only thing I didn't get was Arctic Silver II. Got Antec thermal paste instaed. Very perplexing.
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Countdown continues. T-6 and counting. Moving case from hanger to pad.
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Might be hard to find Artic Silver II in a retail store--it's there, but you really have to hunt for it. Better really to just order off the net. And that's the perplexing complexity of a situation that should have been of a simplex nature.
And I looked up into the sky and asked "Why me?"
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Because we've been playing "Perpetual Tag" with you, GG1! That's the game where you are always "It". https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
You never told me. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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4 x 10^19 times https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Close enough. Your paste if properly applied will still be cooler than the thermo pad.
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I know that two hour drive bit very well as that is the same as my compute from Tyler, Tx to Dallas, Tx appox 122 miles one way. Thank goodness I don't do that everyday.
Did you go by the third Sat Sale in Dallas? I had to stay in Tyler and clean the swimming pool. Then get up 3 AM to be at work by 0630 this morning. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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at least the goose took a gander at the complex simplex question.
I wasn't entirely kidding.
complex, as in CISC
last weekend Raymond mentioned something about difference in CDromdrives and DVDdrives.
and he used the words complex and simplex in relationship to drive steering.
this bugs me, and I want to find out more.
jeesh, the duplicity of computer related terminology gets my cortex in a vortex.
I bet one don't get that at a metroplex.
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Agree with Train. Don't sweat not having the Artic Silver Goose.
PS. Do they have indoor plumbing yet in the hinterlands of Texas? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Good Morning All, One thing left to get is the video card before Fri. I am going with GeForce, and I thought I knew which one but I would like some one to explain the differences be tween the Ge Force cards.
DrMDJ, In the hinterlands of Texas, we have running water - sometimes - when it rains, I understand the last wagon train got lost and hasn't made it across yet although rumor has it that it is west of Pecos, TX. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Triple check your list and plan and pre-plan the planning and re-organize the pre-planning session....all kidding aside....I know you have double checked everything but why not triple check it all tonight to make sure you have everything you need....you will not want to be making that 2 hour drive into the metroplex on friday evening to pick up that last little thing you forgot for BT... (2 hour drive sounds amazingly similar to a 3 hour tour) we have all the castaways too.......goose is gilligan train is mr. howell bistro is the professor jaak could be the skipper daizy is maryanne and QoH is Ginger.....and the rest of us are supporting cast members....or the studio audience....he he...
In anticipation of my own build later this fall/winter (starting to order pices here and there) I also have a question about the GeForce cards: I've been using mainly http://www.pricewatch.com (watching the XP processors go up and down, up and down) and under video cards they list:
GeForce 3 : $249
GeForce 3 Ti: $179
These "Ti" cards are all pre-orders though - what's the difference between them and the regular GeF3's and, if I'm correct in assuming they are slightly stripped-down versions, is the regular GeF3 that much better to warrant almost $100 more?
On a similar note, is the SB Audigy platinum really that much better than the regular SB Live! platinum?
GG1 we're all counting on you to start us off on the right foot https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Good counsel Sarrkazztic. It shall be heeded.
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Hey Goose,,If you'd like a good review of vid cards,this site: http://www.hardocp.com/video.html
will tell about all you'd ever want to know.
Also,,the "Ti" stands for Titanium regarding the NVidea chip used i believe.
The hardocp site has a review pitting the ATI Radeon 8500 against the GeForce3. The results tell me to forget the ATI if@until they get their act together with drivers and chip clocking Mhz over at ATI...
Just some thoughts... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Thanks for the tip Ridgerunr - I checked out the site and apparently the Ti cards should actually be better than those that are currently available ?? Maybe I'm missing something here...
I wonder what gg1 will finally decide on... I'm still trying to convince myself that I _really_ need the GeF3 card, not to mention that Audigy Platinum heh heh... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/