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I keep several "rigged" (with "xcopy" on them, since it's not normally part of a '98 boot disk) '98 boot disks for the purpose of doing just this xcopy-trick - and a couple of prepared bat-files.
You can do it from within Windows, but do it folderwise in that case, and don't try to copy the swap file - it won't work!
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Question of the day.....I need a good hsf that will work both with the socket 370 celeron that I am using now and the piii 933 that I am going to acquire for this board later....I am using the vantec cck-6035 in my athlon machine and it works great..however this particular machine is to be left on all the time and I do not want to hear that delta fan running all night long so I need a different setup for this machine...what do you suggest for the socket 370....next part of the question is this I know that the athlons are hot runners I have done alot of research in this area on my own as well as with all of you. I do not know however any temperature information on the piii does it run anywhere near as hot as the athlons? what is an idea temp range for this cpu..As those of you know who have been reading this thread regularly I cannot overclock with the mobo I bought...now big deal 933 will certainly meet the needs of this machine just fine because the 333 that is in it now is working good not quite as fast as what I would want tho...kind seems like a dinosaur next to the 1.2ghz athlon...so when I upgrade soon I want to be prepared....I tried to use the stock hsf that came with the athlon socket a cpu but it would not sit right on the celeron it kinda wanted to slip to one side..
I knew I would find more than just 1 question...I have all but given up on the ultra66....I may try DrMdjs suggestion thsi weekend and try flashing with the fastrak bios to see if I can turn it into a raid controller....as an experiment....I may still return this card....I am thinking about getting either the maxtor or promise ata100 controller..however with GG1s experiences I am kind of leary...I want to use this in my athlon machine that is running via chipset I want to be 100% certain that the card will work in my machine before I buy it have any of you used either of these cards in this type board...you can see my other posts with specs on the ecs k7vza board or go to www.ecsusa.com to see the chipset information. I appreciate all your help and input into these projects I have been doing and I promise that once BT is underway I will post in separate threads...
If I remember right QOH was around 30C - 32C with the 866 O/Ced And bistro was in the 25 to 28 range. But he has a blow hole also. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Dual side panel 80mm Panaflo fans, a 120 front intake and a 80mm top blowhole fan, baby....white sidewalls, front disc brakes and ...*...oh...no...scratch those...getting carried away for a moment.
JEDEC Clock Reference Board For PC2700 (DDR333) DIMM Guess what we have is not fast enough.
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Sis releases DDR333 chipsets for Athlon processor
Dang, mobo is a antique before it is made now a days.
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Yep. Buy the latest and greatest mobo...and two months later it's three years old. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
there is no trick , only some good logical thinking.
what I read about xxcopy (not xcopy, but xxcopy) and even xcopy, was to run in real mode DOS, seek and delete all *.tmp, and *.swp files. and then do the Xxcopy with the switches.
xxcopy has halfazillion switches
why not from within windows?
because of active files.
some active DLL change in length while in use.
in DOS you don't have windows protecting the active files.
oh, before you do it with xcopy or xxcopy, run smartdrv, and it's gonna speed up considerably.
(you have to have it in your path, or on floppy, of course)
in GG1's case, I'd still go with ghost...after bomid was put on the new drive.
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today's news
a friend oredered an epox ata100 raid card.
I picked it up for him
EP DR02p3
costs more than the abit hotrod 100 pro I have, but by the looks of it, it has better features on the card.
you bet I gonna have a peek at what's on the cdrom and in the manual...
cya later.
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Hi world.
glad to find Somerset is still in the universe.
Thanks Arthur...
where do you find this info at INTEL (tm)? http://support.intel.com/support/pro.../thermal.htm#4Quote:
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I do not know however any temperature information on the piii does it run anywhere near as hot as the athlons? what is an idea temp range for this cpu..
other types of CPU have there own page ion thermal considerations.
someone once asked this
how do i fit a heatsink onto the MOBO? I have some problem pressing down the metal lever and the worst thing is that while I am doing it, all the thermal paste stick onto the Pentium.. Is it alright?
answer was...
You only need apply a THIN layer. http://developer.intel.com/design/Qu...iii/FC-PGA.pdf
kind regards, Jaak
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I finally got around to flashing the bios with the fastrak bios....it must be one of those modified cards because it works as a raid controller....no splats in device manager and I can boot off the hard drives....I do not understand the functionality of RAID yet tho I have done some reading. I have tried setting up all 3 different setups ie spanning striping and mirroring...I am using 2 different size drives and this may be part of the confusion...I have a 10g and a 20g for spanning it shows 29328 megs in the cards bios but only 9g in my computer in windows I read that under this configuration it will fill drive one completly and then move to drive 2 is this correct? then I set it to performace mode or STRIPING and it boots but does not find a command interpreter so I do a dir of C: and it says file not found...this is weire... Mirroring asks me if I want to make an image of the drive..I did not for testing purposes. How can this card benefit me?Quote:
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I regard to your Ultra66... Since it seems all but worthless otherwise, why not try flashing it with a FastTrak66 bios and see if it works. Maybe that was one of those modified cards I mentioned earlier. If it is you might have yourself a $15 Raid controller.
Hi,
for a good raid setup, all drives should have same speed capability and same size.
when I ran trials, I got blistering results after I bought identical models.
win98 seeing only 9.xxx giga on a mirrored set, is, far as I know, normal, since the smaller drive was around "ten giga".
(10.000.000.000.000 /1024 /1024 /1024 /1024 = 9.094)
windows cannot see the remainder of the disk.
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sarrkazztic,
Good deal. I had a feeling. There were many Ultra66s modified in to FastTrak raid cards. For the standard off the shelf ones it took a slight wiring change in addition to the firmware. But it sounds like yours is modified accordingly.
So now, whether you wanted it or not, you have a raid. And since the FastTrak was a fair bit more costly than the Ultra66 you got more bang for your buck.
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Use identical drives if possible (but same size with different brands - same speed, will work) and hook up the drives "crossed-over" - prim. master/sec. slave - never on the same controller (fx. prim./prim.).
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Why can't you connect a cdrom or zip drive to the raid controller? This is the reason I bought the ultra66 card to begin with as I have a cd/rw Dvd Drive and 2 hard drives and I wanted to add a zip drive to the athlon 1.2ghz machine...I had to take 1 hard drive out to accomplish this.My motherboard supports ata100 speed drives so now if I put the raid in and just use it to control the 1 hard drive until I buy another one of the same size and speed I will be technically losing performance by only being able to run it at ata66 speed.....(but then again I currently have this drive attached to the raid card in the gaming/test machine ie...the Celeron PcChips board and it is only capable of ata66 so tit for tat I am not losing anything really am I. Thank you again DrMdJ for suggesting this solution because like you said the card was basically worthless until I did the flash......I have 1 more question for today....I have both of my CD devices connected on an 80 wire 40pin cable...can they benefit from this arrangement or can I put a regular ata33 cable on them and use the ata66/100 cable to attach the extra hard drive to the Raid Controller?
sarrkazztic
cd roms and rw's only need 40 wire as they are, at present, only ATA 33.
They will work on a ATA 66/100 ribbon and will not slow a hdd down if it is on the same ribbon.
It is best to use ATA 66/100 ribbons with the hdd as that gives you your best transfer rates.
But remember, the biggest factor with the hdd is the rpm.
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Train pretty much covered the cable question. The only thing I'll add is that while there is no performance benefit to using an 80wire/40pin cable, there "can" be some greater insurance against error rates and potentially improved data integrity. I say "can". Not worth worrying about though unless this was mission critical stuff.
One note on the ata66 vs ata100 issue with the hard drive. In normal day-to-day use, the ata100 is probably not buying all that much over ata66. Remember, that relates to the maximum burst rate. Rarely, due to a few factors including data access patterns, can ata100 speeds be gotten. About the only time is if the data happens to be sitting in the disk's (on the drive) cache. Short of that the speeds are much slower for the bulk of transfers. So your really loosing little or nothing having a drive at ata66. Having the drive be 7200 vs 5400 rpm is far more significant.
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Just 1¢ worth for sarrkazztic
....I have the Siig ATA66/100 card and attached a Zip drive to it; using ATA cable only because "it was there". Have had no problems from the get-go...slows down the boot process for 1 or 2 secs while the card's BIOS revs up and detects the drive though.
OK I am going to take the RAID card out of the test machine tonight and install it in the Athlon and attach the 20 gig ata100 drive to it...final system specs will be (final for now that is) Ecs K7vza mobo with 1.2ghz Athlon Overclocked to 1.332Ghz Vantec cck-6035d HSF with Delta 7200 fan 512mb pc133 sdram 40 gig maxtor ata100 7200 rpm hard drive attached to onboard ata100 controller. 20 gig maxtor ata100 5400 rpm drive attached to Ultra66 pci IDE card <bios flashed to Fastrak66 RAID Controller per DrMdj's suggestion> set up in a single drive compilation setup for data storage.Realtek 10/100 Nic. Savage 4 32mb AGP video card. HP 8100 series 4x4x24 Cd/RW. Pioneer 16x DVD. Iomega atapi zip100 internal drive. All wrapped up in an antec sx-830 full tower case, And attached to a linksys befsr41 router with At&t @home cable internet service shared with 3 desktops and a laptop.
I added up the cost of all the components in the Athlon machine...grand total of $826.50 not including keyboard mouse and monitor. I bought the Cd/Rw a year ago for $129.00 could have gotten it about half that cost now but I did include full price in the total. By the way I am going to name this machine Delta Athlon since it was built right here with the help of all of you Thank you all for putting up with me while Goose is waiting for parts to come in. I have put together 2 machines in the last 2 months that are very nice and anyone would be proud to have either one and all of it is due to you answering my questions and offering suggestions....Thank you all!
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bistro
What is the asci code for the cent mark?
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With Num Lock on, ALT 6555 (on number pad).
bistro thanks
Have tried my darndest to find it.
¢ and now we have it. a winner.
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2 up and running https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Feel proud . . . . . . .enough glouting https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Relax a couple days before planning next project. You earned the break. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
All it took a couple pokes and jabs to get it done.
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Good Morning All, Maybe I can start easing back into the loop. Past few days have been hectic for me, but I see you've been amusing yourselves with worthwhile subjects. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
This one is for the Master - Bomid, Bomid, Bomid, and I'm glad I said it. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
I know there's three maybe four of us that want that answer and I think we're getting closer.
Good going Sarkazztic. you look like you're lookin' good.
Train, how you doing? DrMDJ? Kallikru, JTDoom? You guys sure have me overloaded with "stuff" to study. I'm way behind. Just right. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Will change over the thread tonight. On this subject, we haven't lost anything and they are being saved. Later. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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No more projects for a while....I may upgrade the processor in the game machine from the 333 celeron to either a 700 cel or a 933piii depending on the prices at the end of the month....and I might put another stick of 128mb sdram in it as well...I was looking into KVM switches here.... http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage....107-120-02.JPG
What do you think has anyone used these...I heard something about them not working with screen resolutions above 800x600 I use 1024x768. I believe I will sit back and relax awhile and enjoy the fruits of my labor.....what is going on here at VDR...I have noticed a serious slowdown in posts since the ordeal with the off topic thing with Mo. Are there anymore good sites like VDR that I might be able to learn from as well.
Hi Sarkazztic, I have about four five more good sites I use, two of which the info presented is more specialized than Virtual Dr and probably three sites that have knowledgeable people that aren't here on Virtual Dr. These sites are slower than normal also. And we saw this slowdown start as a result of Sept. 11th. The issue with Mosaic maybe affected Virtual Dr a bit maybe. Hard to tell as I wasn't watching that very closely. I will tell you this and of course this is my personal opinion and not those of our sponser. (I just love to say that. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ ) A loss of a Mosaic or a VV is not good. And I would like to see them back.
Virtual Dr IMHO is the best. Look what you have gotten from it so far and you got your self mixed up with some of the best minds in the business. So what if the master and his gurus are half a bubble off. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ They know of what they speak. None better anywhere, but there are some that are as good.
Virtual Dr and Mosaic in particular are what got me going instead of a sledgehammer attack on my computer. And I am grateful to both. And always will be. And then I met the Queen of Hearts and shortly thereafter Bistro and Train took us under their wings and became our mentors. Of course the Queen of Hearts learned faster than I. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Ya' know it is up to each one of us as members to help keep Virtual Dr at the top of the heap. Unfortunately, once in awhile there is an issue arise that is hurtful to someone but with this many people on a board, alot of credit goes to those guiding the rest of us to keep it as it is. A board, where each one of us can get answers.
Oops. Got up on the soapbox again. Well, ya'all will just have to live with it 'cause that's the way I feel. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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I beg your pardon...all my bubbles popped years ago..... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Back, back into your den until you're mind is needed. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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OK, ok...I know when I'm not wanted. I can take this rejection like a man!!!
I'm just gonna take my ball and go home. You'll be sorry...my dad can beat up your dad! Nyaaah! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ My system boots up faster than your system! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ So there!!!
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No it doesn't, I have a Train on mine. Well anyway, Bomid to you. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
BTW, is Train sleeping in today?
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GG1
Feeling much better. Believe you me.
Seeing folks all fired up this morning. Seems they are .............. oops can't say that. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Healthy lot for sure. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Goose
found this for you.
Power-On Self-Test Messages for Compaq
Nah,he has been chugging around since 0500 PDST. No skip rope work today. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Train, Have not found Artic Silver here yet. Checked Google and price is $8+5 Shipping. See E mail.
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Going from the pad to Radio Shack dropped just over 2C. What I am using.
Got the mail, True.
EDIT:
Better start a new one.
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here is a link for Arctic Silver II priced at 6.00 and 5.00 http://www.bestbyte.net/Product.cfm?...=7&Keyword=for shipping
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I deleted an almost duplicate post because of a fictitious cache flow error. But I'll start a new one as we are getting close to 80 posts on this thread. So no more posts here. Give me a sec to start new one. Thanks
Lock 'er down Murf.
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