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So far I have read your links, Train, on the Motherboard.
I wish I knew the glossary was there before I read it. They should have put that at the top.
I had heard about the motherboards which have the sound and video included and thought that may be a kill two (or three) birds idea but now I have changed my mind.
From what I also gathered you have to already have decided which processor, before you choose the motherboard. So,
I need to be contemplating that more seriously.
Your's is next, bistro. I remember that thread on the Win 98 forum about the power supply you posted. I can dig that out. It think was in the last month.
One decision I have made so far is what to do with the dust.
I am combining it with dryer lint and using it for pillow stuffing. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Mix dryer lint, computer dust in melted paraffin and you have a fire starter.
[Listed in Boy scout and Girl scout handbooks]
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Remember that any sharing take away from the RAM. Very important to me and my graphics https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Found it bistro.
Train,
Sharing ? As in the combination sound/video/motherboards ?
Hey.... recycle candle drippin's too ! Now, that's killing three birds ! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Great, I wake up this morning and find out first thing I forgot about Bistro's post on power requirements. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Had I remembered that I could have answered my own question on power supply requirements. That is in the file now. I checked out the Soya 6BA+100 and one thing that stood out was dependibility and the price seemed ok.
Train, Wichita Falls, is 60 miles north of me. Will check out. Anyone in particular that you might know of?
I go to review and study now. Later.
Oops, almost forgot. Is there a guideline for sharing?
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Queen of Hearts, Going over Train's post that referred to RAM and motherboards, I found the relationship of the processor, RAM, and hardrive not entirely clear so found This.
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greengoose1
They did not say any place in particular, Just that they had taken their mom's computer to a good shop. She liked the outcome. Sorry, but the best I can do.
Queen_of_Hearts
Sharing ? As in the combination sound/video/motherboards ?
Yes, A sister's machine video card uses 4 Meg of Ram. That leaves her with 28 of 32 Megs and the cpu has to do all the work.
My video card has 8 Meg and does part of the video work so that takes part of the load off the cpu. I am thinking of 32 or 64 Meg one down the road. A lot of the New ones out have problems, and I will be staying away from the ones that get posted here at vdr. {my thoughts are they are to much trouble https://discussions.virtualdr.com/]
The more your components can pick up, the less load on the cpu.
Hope this makes sense https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Hey Train, so you are saying some of the boards come with an effective memory that takes some of the load off the primary system? Now, on RAM, how much is how much from your standpoint?
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Well, with ram there is a point that can be reached were you get low performance gain for money spent. With windows and word prossessing programs going from 32Meg to 64meg on a 5oo MHz cpu will yeild about 98% increase. Worth it, yes.
64 Meg to 96 Meg will yield 6% increase.
So, 128 would be about the upper limit.
Now with photo editing the story changes.
Base of 32 meg remember.
32 to 64 130%
32 to 96 180%
32 to 128 205%
32 to 192 250%
32 to 256 270%
So, there is a corolation(sp) programs and ram, cpu speeds and ram.
I will edit in the link for this info.
Edit:I printed all the pages here and the results are about 1/2 inch thick. http://www.rammatters.com/
Lots of pages in other words https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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As far as graphics cards, 32 mb is the way to go (takes a load off your CPU). There are 64 mb cards coming out, but price-wise they're outrageous. I'm not familiar with any home-user app or game out now (or in the near future) that would require that much video memory. Beware of fantastic frame-rate claims. Your eye is not going to pick up a frame rate difference of 10, 15 etc. between cards. TNT2-based cards are excellent, but it's looking like GeForce 2 may be becoming a "standard" now. No need to go overboard cost-wise, but remember it's worth spending a little extra for the video card; especially if your into gaming and/or graphics production. Remember the quiz on Monday.... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Bistro and Train, What we are trying to do is bring in a system pretty much based on the info you and the rest have given us. Mach said $1400 would bring in a good system. You have given us enough info to realize that we could do better than that initially if we use , for example, our present monitors and printers and maybe bring in two CPUs that are strong for say $900 to $1000. Then we could replace and/or add to the periphials. We need from what has been said, a good power supply, a midsize tower, an excellent mobo, lots of RAM supporting a strong processor, followed by the hardrive(s). We can be behind the latest stuff on the market which hasn't really been tested which allows us to go for strength of operation and dependability. We are not so much interested in the big bad games. There are of course some things that haven't been mentioned here like fans, CDR-ROM, cabling etc.
Realizing the amount of material we have received does instill a bit of apprehension concerning the test this Monday, Bistro. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Oh ! AND maybe add one of dem fancy neutered mice! https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Queen of Hearts, See Email.
Mice?? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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OK.....QUIZ TIME!!!! All questions based on what you've been reading for homework...You have 5 minutes....BEGIN....
1. What 3 basic types of cases are there?
[list=a][*] Mini, Midi, "Big Honker"[*] Economy, Mid-size, Luxury[*] Mini-tower, Mid-tower, Eiffel-tower[*] Do you grade on a curve?[/list=a]
2. What do I need to do FIRST before working inside the case?
[list=a][*] Place my finger in a wall outlet to
make sure I'm "grounded" [*] Wear an anti-static wrist strap, but
only with formal evening wear[*] Make sure it's booted and running, so
if I do something wrong I'll know right away... [*] "I don't wanna go in there...it's too scary..."[/list=a]
3. How many threads will it take to complete "Operation Delta"?
[list=a][*] Enough to wear out 5 keyboards[*] Only 3...with a LOT of good links...[*] Only 50...with a LOT of bad links[*] Depends on what you mean by a "thread"[/list=a]
OK....pencils down...HEY YOU THERE! I SAID
"PENCILS DOWN!".
I'll check these out and get your scores back to you sometime when hell freezes over or shortly afterwards..... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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