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March 25th, 2004, 08:33 AM
OilPatch197

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Originally posted by Murf
This board sucks...

NO IT DOES NOT!!! VR. DR IS THE #1 BOARD ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!:mad:
March 25th, 2004, 08:57 AM
104456

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Originally posted by Murf
YEP haven't forgot Gigabyte.....Maybe buy locally rather then order on the net.

Sorry it took so long to diagnose what a p.o.s. they must be.I'm surprised anybody stocks them if they are that bad?
Have a look at the ASUS boards too all the mod cons at a resonable price
March 25th, 2004, 03:47 PM
rbc1100

I have a new 420 watt Thermaltake psu in my sons pc that works fine. I thought PSU also at 1st. I read some place and I cannot for the life of me remember where, that ECS had like a 1/3 failure rate. PC Chips are not much better. IF this Epox I have in this ever dies I would Seriously consider an Nforce based Gigabyte for my next mainboard. Sorry about your bad luck with this build.
March 25th, 2004, 10:18 PM
Murf

Really did a lot of reading about ECS (I have a ECS in this thiung now) but it's a Pent 3. They are bad boards. Don';t know why. When I called about my RMA they did not even question it. So they must get a lot of returns. But I pay postage back....arh..

I am currently reading up on SOYO (have one that runs great for the last 5 years, ABIT, ASUS and Gigabyte again. At least I have a good PS so I know that is not the problem. I have built at least a dozen systems and this is the 1st time I have had this much trouble. And it is the 1st time I have tried an Athlon XP.

Thanks for all the input, hopefully in a couple of weeks will be running a new board....
March 26th, 2004, 02:24 AM
steppenwolf

i have an ecs .its 850 to 1300 mhz i think
why do people run a board outside a case?
maybe it was touching metal
maybe its a bad board or cpu?
March 26th, 2004, 10:00 AM
photolady

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why do people run a board outside a case?

To avoid your second sentence.
March 26th, 2004, 11:21 AM
Running_on_Wheel

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Originally posted by Murf
CASE CLOSED

Lesson learned, don't try and save money buying a cheap board, I will have to pay shipping back for the rma...but. Going out tomorrow and will find a good ASUS or ABIT board.

Thanks for everyone's input.

never skimp on the most important component in a computer ... learned this lesson once

now i buy asus only (im sure there are plenty of other kick ass mb's but asus has NEVER let me down ... ill pay the xtra 10-20 bucks for the peace of mind)

newegg rocks on there return policy
March 26th, 2004, 04:12 PM
rbc1100

In the last three years I have built 4 computers with Soyo Dragons , one with a Soyo but can't remember what board it was, five computers with Epox, Three with Gigabyte, Two with Asus, One with an ECS four years ago (two falures with ECS) Ranging from 1700+ to 3200+ AMD cpu's. All are still running.
March 26th, 2004, 09:40 PM
Murf

Have spent several hours researching. I have always used SOYO or ASUS, except for this lst ECS, also have used MSI.

I have a couple of limitations:

My Video Card is AGP 4X so wanted a board that would support both 4X and 8X in case of later upgrade

Wanted one that supports at least 333MHz so could upgrade later

Wanted USB 2.0

Had to stick with the vender I bought from as They are giving me an exchange credit. could of pressed for a refund and would of got it. But anyways.

Settled on the following:
MSI KM4M-L VIA KM400 SCKT A

Good reviews and MSI, like ASUS, Gigabyte, Abit highly recommended and thought of. We will find out...
March 26th, 2004, 09:53 PM
Train

Ship it! I'll take it :D

By the way, suggest you try the on board sound. I am using mine.

And that BIOS will let you boot to a USB devices, such as floppy, Cdrom, HDD, LS120 or ZIP also.
Anyway, I sure like the MSI KT4AV-L 's I have gotten.
March 26th, 2004, 09:55 PM
Murf

TRAIN

You could of saved me a bunch of headache's telling me to go with MSI to begin with lololol..

Next week hope it is here.

I think I will add a page to "Murf's Garage" on how not to install a motherboard.....
March 26th, 2004, 10:12 PM
Train

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=475

Has links to such things as your manual.

This is to Mine.

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=456

So you can see the differences.
March 26th, 2004, 10:24 PM
photolady

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I think I will add a page to "Murf's Garage" on how not to install a motherboard.....

Excellent Idea!!! ;)
March 26th, 2004, 11:59 PM
techallenged

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Originally posted by Murf

I think I will add a page to "Murf's Garage" on how not to install a motherboard..... [/B]

No No No No ... I already know how not to install a motherboard... I must already know that cause its a default of not knowing how to install a motherboard.....I need to know how, not to not know how, not that I know how already, just that by not knowing doesnt make me know how, just the same as knowing how doesn't mean that I dont know how,

Now you know what I mean when I say it's all about know how... not not know how.. ya know, but know how...

So now you know !!!!!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Phil :D

PS I need to know now that you know that I am not talking about knowing what you all know about not knowing how to install a motherboard but that I need to know now that you all know that I am asking you if you know about knowing how to install a motherboard!!!!
March 27th, 2004, 12:28 AM
Murf

techallenged

Well I know that you know that I know how to do it. So maybe I will do a page on "Do you know, because I know, and a lot of folks don't know, how to install a motherboard?"

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