SuperSparks, I had forgotten about Ranish and it is good and more, it is free. The other three links are good have to have references too. Nice. :)
Anyone currently use the Ranish Partition Manager? And how do you like it?
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SuperSparks, I had forgotten about Ranish and it is good and more, it is free. The other three links are good have to have references too. Nice. :)
Anyone currently use the Ranish Partition Manager? And how do you like it?
Those large hdds and older BIOS with the limitations I listed above.
As stated, there are different ways to over come them.
1. Overlays - Granted they exist and are free, but if you noticed the hint, it might be a very, very good idea to stay away from them. You can figure there is a very good reason. That being, it does not take much to cause the overlay to go haywire and then you have lost everything on the hdd. The reason I will never use the overlay.
2. BIOS update - Overall this is prefered, BUT there is a small possibilty of running into trouble. So here you have to be very sure about what you download, and follow the instructions to the letter. I use a ups when i flash {update} the bios to make sure I do not lose power in the middle of doing it.
3. Controller card - For ide devices there are the ATA 100 and ATA133 pci adapter cards. There are a lot of manufactors of these cards but Here are a couple links as example of what they are.
Ultra ATA/100 controller card
Ultra133 controller card
And another benefit of these controller cards is that they give you the capablity to add 4 more IDE devices. My favorite idea.
4. And of coarse for the newer SATA hdds, they have controller cards also.
Some example of them.
2-Port Serial ATA/150 Controller
4-Port Serial ATA/150 Controller
So as you can see there are options avalable. All that leaves is to chose the one that fits our usage best.
Right now the BIOS update and the ATA133 card files my requirements.
Found this:
Here.Code:Drive Size FAT Type Sectors Cluster
(logical volume) Per Cluster Size
----------------- -------- ----------- -------
0 MB - 15 MB 12-bit 8 4K
16 MB - 127 MB 16-bit 4 2K
128 MB - 255 MB 16-bit 8 4K
256 MB - 511 MB 16-bit 16 8K
512 MB - 1023 MB 16-bit 32 16K
1024 MB - 2048 MB 16-bit 64 32K
2048 MB - 4096 MB 16-bit 128 64K
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=140365
Do we want to mention the maximum number of partitions on a drive ie total primary and extended partitions not logical drives within extended partitions.
Is it 4 regardless of whether they are hidden or not ?
4 primary I believe it is and with fat, the max number counting logical is 26 partitions and that is counting A = floppy and your cdrom = ZQuote:
Originally posted by Nix
Do we want to mention the maximum number of partitions on a drive ie total primary and extended partitions not logical drives within extended partitions.
Is it 4 regardless of whether they are hidden or not ?
Now if you are into hiding partitions that is a whole different ball of wax. posted a link where a young man had 56 OS's If i remember right on a computer.
As per the link i gave in my second post to this thread:
http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/p...399433,00.html
He has 57 operating systems on one PC...:)
That's too many..! The licensing fees would destroy my next vacation... :eek:
It's been awhile since I have had two operating systems on the same drive, but I can remember getting a message that the second partition had to be within two Gigs of the MBR or else it wouldn't boot. It didn't seem to matter since it would boot anyway. A third partition would not boot however. I might have been using Win95 at the time..? I never did quite understand what that was all about... :confused:
I tried installing Linux along with Win 2000 pro. After the install-no windows-The boot loader LiLo couldn't "see" the NTFS file system. After many failed attemps to repair LiLo, I finally re-install Windows 2000 Pro. Then installed PartitionMagic and converted the Linux partition to a logical partition and use it for backups. I backed up first so the only thing I lost was time. But I'll never try that again. Next Linux installation will be on it's own HD.
Good Morning All,
The question yesterday on haw many people use Ranish Partition Manager remains unanswered. Does that mean no one does or just the readers of this thread. Live dangerously try something new. :D :D
Train filled in some on controller cards (different types) and the FAT file system. And yes only four primary drives per hard drive.
The article Ridgerunr posted on multibooting is good, clear, concise, well written, and not a long read. A nice road map. Seems like there was another young fellow last year that did more than that. A hundred operating systems? I was not aware there were that many. All of this just points up the fact that we need to understand these hard drives and how to work with them to be successful in doing more with them such as multibooting operating systems.
Oldhermit, Alot of the older operating systems can be purchased inexpensively. They can be found with old computers in garage sales and thrift stores. Also can be bought at online stores. "Stuff" like this isn't worth anything except for going back and getting a handle on how all of this computing business started and then moving forward and seeing how everyting was added to and layered up and how each facet of computing was taken and expanded into specialized subjects. Unbelievable, how in less than a hundred years we went from nothing to what we have today in computers.
jmtjet weighed in with the fact that there is acertain amount of trial and error to adding operating systems. :) :)
Nice thread. Though the average user may not need 50+ OS's there are probably many who need 4+ HD's with all the d/l hype ;)
Anyway, here's a question I came across reading about the max limitations on HD's ...
Which type of user (gamer, home network, small business etc.) would set up:
- multiple boot systems
- multiple partitions
- multiple HD's
and what advantages/disadvantages do these setups entail?
Example:
I am a home-network user with a wide variety of uses: games, benchmarking, work related, TV/DVD, digital pics etc., i.e. my system needs to balance it all.
I used to multiboot 98SE and 2K, because I still prefer(ed) 98 but need to learn 2K (work environment). Now I'm running 2K only, but plan on learning Linux.
Partitions are, IMO, like the drawers in your cabinets. They are the first large organizational level.
Additional HD's add more space and allow for backup or other safety setups.
We're seeing more and more larger capacity hard drives on the retail shelves nowadays. Frankly, I don't care for them. Rather than have to split up a 120gb into several partitions, I'd rather ensure my data integrity with three or four smaller drives. If Big Bubba Hard Drive goes bad on you, that blows everything out of the water.
In the past, I would look for mobos that have RAID configuration (4 IDE connectors) and hook the drives up--each on their own channel. On my current system, I have two 36gb drives on the SATA connectors and two drives on the IDE. On the last drive, I keep backup images of the C and D drive. On that same drive I also have all my downloaded programs, updates, icons, wallpapers, etc., etc. just in case I prefer to do a clean reinstall rather than a reimaging. Works great for me. OS on C:, programs on D:, imagery/music on E:, and archives on F:.
Just for a little clarification, GreenGoose's reply to my post seems to eliminate certain OS's from this discussion.
I have computers in the following configurations:
DOS
Win3.1
Win95
Win95B
Win98SE
WinNT4.0
Win2K
WinXP
RedHat Linux
All were purchased and licensed legitimately.
You might want to indicate which of these are going to apply to this discussion, and then I won't regard anything said as being relevant to the others..?
Hi All, KGG brought up this question:
"Which type of user (gamer, home network, small business etc.) would set up:
- multiple boot systems
- multiple partitions
- multiple HD's
and what advantages/disadvantages do these setups entail?"
I have all three - gamer, home network, small business.
Now the multiple HDDs, at least two in a computer allows for HDD to HDD back ups using a ghosting program between the two HDDs in a single computer or transferring files over the network from one computer to another. I have all printers, copiers, scanners and like that also shared between computers on the network so there are redundant capabilities.
I use multiple partitions on all HDDs for for backups and various data catagories.
And for small business duplicate files on two computers in case one goes down, I can immediately switch.
Why do I do this. Over kill? No, I learned the hard way, as some of you know, when you don't have a HDD or its drives backed up. Cost me dearly. If there is a catastrophic event and my computers die twogether their are CDs that have been burned holding all data.
Disadvantages - just some time is all. But sleepin' at night is sure better. :)
I have to agree with Bistro on size of HDD. I go up the 80GB in size. I like the 40s too. :)
I don't know if our friends on other parts of this ol' ball of mud called 'Earth' are able to get it. but with all the junk floatin' around on television that i 'don't' watch, i actually came across a very interesting program on the History channel's 'Modern Marvels' last evening. It concerned the history of magnetism. From the time it was discovered to what we know about it now and how we use it. A very basic story for the most part. The thing that caught my interest was a description of how it's used nowadays with the advent of very small,yet powerful electromagnetic motors that power computer disk drives. A small part that 'really' got my attention was a lady physicist talking about how very close they are to creating a memory chip that does not lose it's memory when powered off! With this chip, when you hit the power button to boot your PC, it will be at the desktop and fully functional instantly!
If you get a chance to watch this program,wherever you are, i highly recommend it...