Now Trish, no sense in doing that.....lol
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Now Trish, no sense in doing that.....lol
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Please remember to let us know if it worked or not...JJ
An important thing to remember is to cover the intake fans with filters. You won't believe how much dust and dirt is collected in such a filter, so remember also to clean the filter regularly.
Until a few weeks ago I had a dual system (2 x 750 MHz P3 @115 MHz FSB) running in a large case. It had a 120 mm fan sucking air in at the bottom front, a 120 mm fan sucking air in through the side panel blowing directly at the processors, one 80 mm exhaust fan at the top back and the PS fans (2) above the processor (made quite some noise..). All drives were place in the upper part of the case well away from the mainboard.
Despite this cooling effort the system was constantly running hot (> 50 C with 26 C room temp.).
I finally made up my mind and invested in an aluminium case. It came with 2 x 80 mm intake fans at the front bottom and one 80 mm exhaust fan at the back at processor level and finally one 80 mm exhaust fan at the top - and of course the exhaust fan in the PS. What a difference! I haven't seen the temperature inside the case rise above 44 C so far.
I think the most important difference is the exhaust fan at processor level. The fan not only sucks hot air away but also moves coller air TO the processors at the same time. The side intake (homegrown) in the old case was a good thought, but failed to remove the heated air, so all it really did was take in cooler air and mix it with hot - result: cooler hot air.
Hot air must be removed, not circulated.
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Trish: Forget the meds. Just throw away that X-rated copy of "Prom Night" you've been watching too much.... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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PS Train's out of pocket for a couple of days. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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How do you install a filter for the intake fan? Did you mean buy a fan with built-in filter? I haven't seen this fan in Toronto,Canada. Hmm...I guess you could custom make one yourself.
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Originally posted by kallikru:
An important thing to remember is to cover the intake fans with filters. You won't believe how much dust and dirt is collected in such a filter, so remember also to clean the filter regularly.
Your intake fan preferably should be composed of the fan, filter and grill such as HERE. Fan on the inside, filter wedged between fan and case chassis; grill on the outside of the chassis. If you have a filter on, it's not entirely necessary to have a grill since the filter blocks any wandering fingers from getting into a running fan. However, it's still a good idea to have one--the edges of the fan hole in the chassis can be quite sharp.
Exhaust fan should NOT have a filter (of course), but should also have a grill on it if the case doesn't already have a "built-in" grillwork.
Take a look HERE for some examples of side panel blowholes (intakes), top panel blowholes (exhausts) with grills. Some pretty wild "mods" (modifications)in that gallery--fun to peruse through there. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Some folks didn't use grills, but placed the fan filter on the outside of the case. To each his own, but IMHO it looks weird.
[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 06-06-2001).]
I was just wondering,
what is the/your recommended temperature range for the case?
Ideally, the inside temp shouldn't be much more than 5 degrees above room temperature (being 72 to 75 deg F).
(Had to edit the statement here): If your system temp is running around 80 to 85; you're OK; but you could do better. 85 and higher, you really need to start cooling it down some. Rule of thumb here is, the cooler, the better.
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Bistro, Where in your opinion is the best place to buy fans and accessories right now. At the site you listed or another one?
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Important note when ordering fans or buying at a retail store: make sure they are "tailed"; that is, they have Molex plugs to connect up to the power supply. (Same plug that your hard drives and CD-ROMs have). Exhaust fans: some mobos have a 3-pin auxilary connector right next to where the CPU fan wire is connected. You can get a 60mm fan with that 3-pin connector and hook it up there. However, (personal preference mind you) I'd rather run it off the power supply using power wire extenders. Have seen some mobos that have a third 3-pin connector for an front intake fan. Well...it might work, but now you are taxing the mobo a little more. Better to hook that up to the power supply. Remember--you start adding fans, then you are slowly upping the requirements for the power supply. Fans generally don't take too much, but it can start to add up. If your power supply is 200 watts or less, consider upgrading to 300 watts or more to cover for the additional requirements.
On the other hand:
Had a whole boxful of tailess fans (lead wires only), so i got what's called a "fan bus"--a simple box with push-clip wire connectors similar to what you see on the back of stereo speakers. A single Molex plug
connects the box to a power supply lead. You can run 4 "tailess" fans from the bus. Unclutters the inside a little bit.
Goes inside the case. There are kits also where you can make a controllable fan bus that fits in a 5.25 bay on the front of the case. Fancy lights and switches that'll turn them off, on, and some that regulate the fan speed. Just depends on how fancy you want to get.
They're pictured
HERE.
[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 06-06-2001).]
Okay got rid of the flicks.
Right; I want to add 2 fans. (1) intake (1) exhaust. Where do I get the power supply from?
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Have dealt with several online and retail, but for power supplies, I've found These Folks to be about the best.
Check out their "Power Supply Selector" wizard after entering the site (under Power Supplies).
If you order, tell them "bistro" sent you. You'll get back a really cool e-mail from them asking "Who in the *&^% is "bistro"?????"
[This message has been edited by bistro (edited 06-06-2001).]
Uhaaaaaaaa let me rephrase...
where do I plug the fans in to?
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defung,
Filters are typically made of plastic (like here: http://216.157.14.244/grills.htm - lnk provided by bistro earlier..).
When you install the fan/filter you place the fan on the inside of the case (remember to check the arrow on the side of the fan for blow direction) and you then attach the bottom part of the filter to the outside of the case using the same screws that you fasten the fan with. The filter-cloth and the upper part can then anytime easily be removed for cleaning. Once the filter begins to clog up with dust, this reduces the intake of cool air - system temperature starts rising.
Exhaust fans (for obvious reasons..?) are not normally equipped with filters.
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[This message has been edited by kallikru (edited 06-06-2001).]