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Hi scarecrowdr, Glad that we could help. Thanks for the report. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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What is your Vcore?
Also where or how are you getting the cpu MHZ?
996 out 1000 is awful close though. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Hi All, Just popping in for a minute to tell you I have a mobo, cpu, and cooler master fan in my possession. Also received the Norton System Works CD.
Also found a 17" monitor on sale for $88.00.
We're gaining ground my friends. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Now I'm off to make supper for the young ones. Be back later. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
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Got a good one.
we do a sys C: to make a harddisk bootable.
Now if I wanted to make it non bootable could one do a Del sys C: to get rid of it?
I have used fdisk up to now. Just trying to cheat is all!
In otherwords if I have the os on C: and copied to D:[not active] had problems made D: active this becoming the new C: and want to go back in to the old C: and pull stuff out.
Hope this makes sense.
Oh yes, 2 different harddisk, D: on second one to start with.
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[This message has been edited by Train (edited 09-28-2001).]
If c was the primary drive and then you copy c to d and have problems later and make d the active drive and that makes d turn to c and the original c turn to d at that point you could delete everything in the root of the "new" d drive and then it would be a regular storage type drive....
Hi Train,& everyone else, My Vcore is 1.744v
CPU Speed--100/100 (100/133 is slower)CPU Ratio--10x, CPU Frequ--100,Dram Frequ--100
Sysoft Sandra 2000 Pro tells me my 1Gbt is runing @ 996.I know its not much but to me 1Ghz should be 1Ghz not runing at 996.Or should I ignore it and just carry on.Anyway here is what I have the settings on.--
DramTiming Config--Normal. SDR/DDR Cas Latency-- SPD. SDR/DDR Ras Active Time--6T. SDR/DDR Ras Precharge Time 3T
(normal/SPD/6T/3T)Must I always clear the CMOS before changing any or all of them. I hope not cause I know NOT how to do that. Or can I change each one any time I want to see which runs best for me. CPU MemBandWith=449
FPU MemBandWith=541. Thats highest I can go at moo. 1 stick of 256MbtDDRRam + 1Ghz Thunderbird Athlon. Back to you guys. THANKS
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scarecrowdr,
Are you saying that on the CPU PNP Setup screen in bos setup you have the cpu ratio set to 10, the cpu frequency set to 100, and the dram frequency set to 100? If so these cpu settings would be correct for a model "b" athlon. I'm not sure then why sandra would report 996mhz, but the cpu is running as it should be. However, if you have PC2100 SDRAM then you are underclocking that. The DRAM frequency needs to be 133 to get full benefit from it.
But, if this is in fact an athlon model "c", then the cpu ratio should be 7.5 and the cpu freqency 133. Coincidently this would give a cpu speed of 996, which could make sense in light of your 997 reading you see. Again, if your dram is PC2100 the dram frquency should be 133.
The thing to note is that in the case of both cpu models the multiplier (ratio) is "locked", thus unchangeable. So if you have a model b your speed will be 10 times the bus frequency set. With a model c it is going to be 7.5 times the frequency set.
If you cold boot and hold PAGE UP while doing so the bios should reset the cpu related values and detect the correct ones. If you do this what shows up on the cpu setup page afterwards?
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Good Morning All, Busy already I see. Will take a good look at the components I received yesterday this morning and start reading the manual on the motherboard. I want to get that down before I do anything else.
I don't have a digital camera so I'm going to pick up one of those throw away Kodaks Wal Mart sells and take a series of pictures as this build progresses, then scan them so we can use them for show and tell or whatever other use we may need them for.
Jaak, I'm going to run some of those checks on the Compaq you, DrMDJ, Bistro, and the others came up with regards to the 32GB barrier this weekend. Maybe the results will help us solve this. Train's post dealing with the Email from Compaq has really got me going. This Compaq as it is right now is a joy to operate over what it was. I wonder how much better it can be made to operate.
DrMDJ, Please explain the difference in models of the Athlon CPU. I did not realize there were different models.
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The software programs like sysoft, MotherBoard Monitor do not read as accurately as we would like.
Try what DrMDJ posted, it will take care of what I spotted also.
DrMDJ
Now if that mobo is jumpered, wouldn't that fail?
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GG1,
Now don't go scrimping on us. A project such as this, after all the buildup, requires only the finest in digital images. Surely you are willing to plop down a grand or two on camera to provide such images for your VDR friends. Also, maybe set a tape recorder near by. Would be interesting capturing the "sounds of building". We speak all the time of chipsets, motherboards, etc, etc. But what about the other technical phrases used in regard to computers (ie. G-- D--- thing!, What the H--?, This piece of S---!). Could be very educational, not to mention amusing.
As for the models of the AMD, at least the current ones I was referring to above... Those Athlons using a 100 (200 ddr) FSB are often referred to model "B"s. These are the ones that have been around for a while. The newer (not newest) ones using the 133 (266 DDR) FSB are the model "C"s. Both are DDR capable of course. The newer boards wil take both models. The older boards will only take the Bs. In terms of speeds, there is overlap between the models. You can get, say, 1.2ghz model Bs and Cs. It just depends on your needs/wants and the board you intend to use as to which one uses.
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Train,
Looks like scarecrowdr's board has no jumpering/switches for multiplier and/or bus speed. It's all done in bios.
Personally, my money is on the processor actually being a model C, using the 133 fsb. If it were a model B and the FSB was set to 133 (in bios) there's a pretty good chance the system wouldn't have even booted. Besides, as I said, seeing that 996mgz is pretty close to 997 (what the C would run at) seems very suspicious.
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Here's a reference I found. http://sure.org.ru/docs/hardware/pcrepair/chap21.html
Lots of theory and "stuff".
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The 1.744V and knowing how the error reads in sysoft. I would say that scarecrowdr's vcore may in fact be set to 1.70V in BIOS. Will run cooler at that setting though.
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[This message has been edited by Train (edited 09-29-2001).]
OK Folks this is going to be a little long winded,Hope you dont mind.(If you prefer I put this lot in other part of Forum Please say). This is my BIOS will skip top part.
Boot to os/2=No. L1 Cache/L2 Cache= enabled
System Bios Cacheing=enabled
Graphics Win Size=128, next four are---
Normal/SPD/6T/3T (would that be better at fast or ultra/2T/6T/3T)Auto Detect Dimm/CPI/clk=enabled. CLK Gen Spread Spectrum=enabled.
CPU brand= AMD K7
CPU Type= Athlon
CPU speed=100/133 (100/133 was or looked slower)
CPU voltage=1.744v
CPU Ratio= 10x
CPU Frequ/Dram Frequ=100 100
Other part of Bios is this---
VCore=1.744 to 1.760 occilates between.
VCC2.5v=2.480
VCC3.3v=3.280v
VCC5v=4.945v
+12v=12.352
SB3v=3.360v
-12v=-11.639
SB5v=4.945v
VBAT=3.360v
system fan speed=0rpm
cpu fan speed=5113/5152rpm
sys temp=33%C=91F to 95f
cpu temp=53C=127f to 131f 131F being the highest it gos.(is that to hot)
PLEASE can you tell me if I can change these settings--Normal/SPD/6T/3T, 100/100 or 100/130 or 130/130 without clearing the CMOS,or must I Clear the CMOS before I attempt any of those changes. Many Thanks to you all.
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Goose I think I figured out your ata100 controller issue.....I ordered the ata66 card for my machine and could not get it to find the drive either...In the instructions it says to "configure the drive" that usually means to set it as master or slave.....Did you leave the jumpers on the hard drive.....was it the only drive on the ribbon.....when I had my drive as the only drive on the ribbon it would not detect it when I had the master jumper on the drive.....I took the jumper off and voila it found the drive.....I then put the master jumper back on and put a cdrom set to slave on the cable also and everything is fine....If you left the jumper on the drive and only had one drive on the cable give this a try...I think it will fix your 32 gig limit...